2023 Ford F-150 complaints

Ford F-150 Rear Axle and Hub Replacement: It has been 130 days since I received Safety Recall Notice 25S82 / NHTSA Recall 25V512 from Ford stating parts were available and to contact my local dealer for repairs. I did so and they told me they do not have the parts I have followed up with them three times and I am still waiting for parts. Should these part fail on the highway it could leave me stranded or worst case scenario I could lose control and crash. I need NHTSA to put pressure on for to get this done!

The vibration occurs consistently above approximately 40 mph and becomes more pronounced at highway speeds. It is felt in: • Gas pedal • Underbody near shifter • Steering wheel • Seat Despite numerous repair attempts and replacement of major drivetrain components, the vibration has not been permanently resolved. Truck keeps throwing road force on brand new tires as well. Repairs and attempts have included: • Tire pressure corrections • Multiple tire balances and road force balancing • Replacement of all four tires • Subsequent rebalancing of the replacement tires after road force values continued to fluctuate • Additional tire replacement when road force variation repeatedly returned despite proper balancing • Replacement of both front hubs • Replacement of both front axles • Replacement of front steering knuckles • Replacement of front differential ring and pinion bearing kit • Replacement of right front axle • Replacement of transfer case • Replacement of front driveshaft • Diagnostic tire swapping from another vehicle for comparison At one point, test tires from another truck were installed to isolate the concern, which resulted in the vibration spreading further into the steering wheel and seat. The issue affects drivability and confidence in the vehicle at highway speeds. Current visit beginning January 7, 2026: Vehicle has remained at the dealership continuously with no return to me and no confirmed repair completion (now exceeding 40 consecutive days). The cumulative d

The contact stated that he was a valet parking attendant. The contact stated that while parking a 2023 Ford F-150, the column shift was able to shift without pulling the handle back or depressing the brake pedal. The contact also stated that while driving at 2 MPH, the gear shifter was able to shift into reverse before stopping. There was no warning light illuminated. The contact also stated that the failure occurred when he drove a 2025 Ford F-150. The dealer was not contacted, and there was no inquiry about whether the vehicle was operating normally. The manufacturer was not notified of the issue. The failure mileage was unavailable. The VIN was unavailable.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact stated while driving at an undisclosed speed, several unknown warning lights intermittently illuminated. The contact stated that since the purchase of the vehicle, the warning lights had been illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer; however, no cause for the failure was found. The contact stated that the failure persisted. On a separate occasion while driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle jerked and failed to accelerate as intended while depressing the accelerator pedal. The vehicle failed to accelerate or exceed 30 MPH. In addition, an abnormal rattling sound was coming from the bottom of the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the dealer. The vehicle was not inspected or diagnosed; however, the contact was informed that the failure might be associated with the front differential. The vehicle remained at the dealer unrepaired. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 1,000.

I’ve been advised by McGovern Ford in Massachusetts that I need ABS Module and an Electronic Brake Booster and it isn’t covered by any warranty. Yet it’s a safety hazard and the truck is only 2 1/2 years old. Why would those 2 items need to be replaced on a newer truck.

While accelerating from a stop light, my 2023 F-150 Powerboost failed to properly accelerate and my gas pedal stopped working around 20-25 mph. I reported this to the Ford dealership immediately and drove straight to service bay. The failure repeated 3-4 more time before arriving. There was no engine light or error code so the dealership couldn't "fix anything". 16 hours later, the truck engine struggled to stay running, my gas pedal wouldn't engage again, I couldn't accelerate, and I had it towed to the dealership. I'm being told the Fuel Pump Driver Module failed and that it's not covered under the powertrain warranty - my concern is that this failed module creates a significant safety risk which leaves the vehicle inoperable while driving but Ford is treating it as a minor failure and not covering under warranty.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train); however, the part to do the recall repair was not available. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, and the vehicle was inspected. The contact was informed that the repair needed to be performed. The contact was informed that the parts were not yet available. The contact stated that two months later, the parts were still not available. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure, and a case was filed. The failure mileage was approximately 43,000.

⸻ Highlight Summary: My 2023 Ford F-150 (VIN: [XXX] ) has intermittent rear tail lamps, brake lights, turn signals, and backup lights failure due to water intrusion. The right side has completely failed; the left side is beginning to fail, creating a serious safety hazard at night or in low visibility. Both the dealership and Ford Customer Assistance have avoided returning calls and are denying responsibility, and this is a common problem nationwide. ⸻ Complaint – 2023 Ford F-150 Rear Lighting Failure •Vehicle: 2023 Ford F-150, VIN [XXX] , ~73,000 miles •Issue: Intermittent rear tail lamps, brake lights, turn signals, and backup lights failure due to water intrusion •Right side: completely failed; left side: starting to fail •Safety Risk: Creates serious hazard at night/low visibility, increasing risk of rear-end collisions •Dealership: D-Patrick Ford Superstore, Evansville, Indiana, E. Walnut St. •Initially could not duplicate issue •Feb 7, 2026: confirmed problem, quoted ~$3,000 for repair •Truck returned “all lights working,” but right side still not functioning •Manufacturer & Dealership Response: Ford Customer Assistance and dealership are denying responsibility and avoiding calls, leaving the defect unresolved nearly a year •Nationwide Problem: Common issue reported by many F-150 owners, indicating widespread safety defect •Request: Immediate review and corrective action for this recurring and escalating safety hazard INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFO

There is a leak somewhere in the truck. This leak is causing the carpet to retain and moisture and get caught between the floor mats causing a mildew and moisture smell.

On 3 separate occasions, while traveling at highway speeds on the NJ Garden State Parkway in the left lane, my truck’s service engine light soon wrench would come on out of nowhere, the throttle would cut out, and the gas pedal would go limp and unresponsive. The only way to get it operational again was to turn the truck off, let it sit for 10-15 min to drain the computers, and restart. Imagine doing 70-75 mph in the left most lane and you lose all throttle and have to get your vehicle all the way to the right shoulder without the ability to speed up to avoid being hit in the process. Now imagine that same thing happening 3 times within a month. The dealership found failed factory power train wiring and a failed gateway module. This truck’s a 2023 with 50k highway miles. Shouldn’t be failing like this. Now it’s been at the dealership for 3 weeks…..

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The dealer was made aware of the issue and confirmed that parts were not yet available. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue and confirmed that parts were not yet available. The contact had not experienced a failure.

The sunroof of my vehicle burst while I was driving on the highway. There was no warning and the vehicle was not hit by anything. The glass shattered and came into the truck cabin. Air starting getting in the vehicle as well. It was a dangerous situation as I was driving and glass was coming in. The vehicle was towed to the dealership. The dealership is refusing to repair the vehicle and they can’t confirm why the sunroof broke. The glass is caved outward. I have filed a claim with my insurance company to have the vehicle repaired.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received a notification letter associated with the rear axle. The contact stated that there was an abnormal clicking sound coming from the rear of the vehicle. There were no warning lights illuminated. The vehicle was taken to a local dealer, where it was diagnosed, and the failure was associated with NHTSA Campaign 25V512000 (Power Train). Elkhorn Motors Inc Service (910 N Wisconsin St, Elkhorn, WI 53121); was contacted, and the contact was advised that the vehicle needed to be inspected. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The contact expressed concerns about the risk of a crash due to the condition. The manufacturer was contacted and confirmed the recall status. The failure mileage was approximately 12,000.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. While driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle made abnormal rattling sounds. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, and it was determined that the rear axle hub bolt had fractured, causing damage to the rear axle shaft; however, the parts to repair the vehicle were not yet available. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was informed of the failure and confirmed that parts were on backorder. The contact was denied the vehicle buyback. The failure mileage was approximately 19,000.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train). The vehicle was taken to a dealer for maintenance, and was diagnosed and determined that there was a sheared off bolt in the hub cap. The contact was advised not to drive the vehicle, and the vehicle remained at the dealer for approximately one month. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 34,000.

Took my truck into a Ford dealership for an oil change and they gave me a part that broke off the left rear hub. Talked to service dept they said safe to drive unless I hear knocking from the back of vehicle. Also the part to fix it is unavailable. My concern is they said it's ok to drive but the wheel could come off of the axle.

I have an open recall that has not been fixed. I’ve been reaching out to my nearest ford dealership and all I get back is the part is”ordered” or still on “back order”. I’ve been waiting since December for this to be resolved and still nothing. I bought the truck in November and immediately had it looked at. Now anything after market wheels/tires/supsension or lifts no shop wants to be liable or comfortable working on my truck until the recall is complete.

The bolt related to this recall inevitably broke on 11/23/25 at 43,842 miles. Ford of Upland took my truck and provided me with a loaner vehicle for about a month and a half, until demanding that I return the loaner vehicle. I had no choice but to take my truck back as I do not have a second vehicle, and they didn’t offer me a solution. At the time of writing this, I have put ~800 miles on the truck since the bolt sheared off. It is now making a terrible noise from the rear end, which I have expressed to Ford of Upland, Colley Ford, and Ford Customer Service.. with no resolve. Ford Customer Service told me over the phone that they are “hoping” to have the parts to fix my truck in Q3 of this year (2026). I purchased this truck as it fit my everyday needs. I often tow which made this truck a good candidate. As I understand, the truck is not currently safe to drive, and definitely not capable of towing. Not having a capable truck is unacceptable. It seems that Ford is incapable of providing a reasonable solution. The truck has been “out of service” since 11/23/25, nearly 3 months at the time of writing this.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact stated that while depressing the accelerator pedal or brake pedal, there was a loud clunking sound coming from the driver’s side rear of the vehicle. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (POWER TRAIN); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (POWER TRAIN); however, the part to do the recall repair was unavailable. The local dealer was contacted, and it was confirmed that the part was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

Truck is burning oil. Talked to over 5 dealerships and they says it’s a problem that they know about and are waiting for ford to recall a section of the engine. Heard in Naples Fl all sheriff trucks are doing it and burning excessive amount of oil

Ford has failed to complete the pending recall after 6 months. Ford states on their app and the letter they sent that they have a remedy and theparts to complete the safety recall. However, when you actually talk to someone at Ford or the dealer they have no parts and can not give an eta of when they will have parts. The dealer, Group 1 Ford of Pensacola, has advised in December that they had 125 recall kits in transit and they would notify me when they arrived. I can not get anyone at the dealer to return calls, emails, or text concerning a time line for repair.

Re: Safety Recall 25S82/NHTSA Recall 25V512. I received this recall notice in August, 2025. Never received any more info. I contacted the Ford dealer here on February 2, 2026. I was told the axle parts are still not available and it will be 6-8 more months which makes the total response time 11-13 months. I was put on a waiting list. In the meantime my pickup axle could fail causing a crash as outlined in the recall notice. Ford is not taking the recall serious. Please look into this situation as Ford is failing to do followup communication with the vehicle owners. My pickup rear axle is clicking and popping and rolls when in Park until the Parking Brake is applied. All symptoms as stated in the recall. Thank You [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train). The contact called the local dealer several times and was informed that parts were not yet available for the recall repair. The vehicle was not repaired. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was informed of the lack of parts. The contact had not experienced a failure.

Safety Manufacturer Recall Number 25S82 was issued 8/11/2025, with no ETA on when parts will be available for fix. It's been almost 6 months with the same status, and my dealership telling me they are 41,000 place in line to receive the parts when they are available. People are making monthly payments on these newer vehicles and chose to do so with it in mind that newer vehicles will be safer and more reliable, especially with recalls covered under warranty and should be fixed in a timely manner. With the number of vehicles this recall affects, it's understandable that some time is expected for the repair to be completed, but people are left with this broken part and no loaner vehicle to drive and no time frame when parts are expected to be available, affecting job security and livelihoods.

I experience a failure related to Manufacturer Recall Number23S65 NHTSA Recall Number23V896 Recall Status Recall Incomplete I had this recall completed 7/29/25 at Faricy Boys Ford in Salida, CO On 01/13/2026 this repair/parts failed while I was traveling. I had to have my truck towed to Phil Long Ford in Raton, NM for repair. I was told this was a result of the recall and it would be covered . However, they still cannot give me an eta for parts and repair. They also do not have rentals or loaners and there are no car rentals in Raton, NM. Neither the dealership or Ford Customer Service have authorized a rental for me yet. I am a full time RV'er with my travel trailer parked in Las Cruces, NM for the winter. I returned here 1/14 by renting a Uhaul van which was ridiculously expensive and have been here in Las Cruces since then, with no means of transportation. The dealership initially told me the last one of these recalls took 5 weeks for parts. When the parts fail the rear axle disengages from the drive line. You cannot move, and in park the truck rolls. This recall has been going for a couple of years and there are no replacement parts available. I will need transportation to move my trailer to a new job in Colorado before the end of April. Thanks for your attention to this matter.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The local dealer was contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue and informed the contact that the parts were on back order. A complaint was filed with manufacturer. The contact had not experienced a failure.

Complaint Description The vehicle is equipped with a Ford 10R80 10-speed automatic transmission that exhibits erratic and unpredictable shifting behavior. The transmission frequently hesitates, shifts harshly, or delays engagement, particularly when accelerating from a stop, slowing down, or attempting to merge into traffic. At times, the vehicle fails to deliver power when the accelerator is pressed, creating a delay in acceleration. This is especially dangerous when pulling into intersections, making left turns across traffic, or merging onto roadways where immediate and predictable power is required to avoid collisions. The transmission also downshifts harshly and unexpectedly, causing sudden jerking and brief deceleration. These events can occur without warning and increase the risk of loss of vehicle control or rear-end collisions, particularly in stop-and-go traffic or at low speeds. In addition, the transmission often clunks or lurches into gear, including when shifting from park to drive or reverse. This creates unsafe conditions in parking lots and low-speed environments where precise vehicle control is necessary to avoid pedestrians or other vehicles. Because these issues occur inconsistently and without warning, the driver cannot reliably anticipate vehicle response. This unpredictability represents a safety defect that increases the risk of a crash during normal driving conditions.

Complete electrical shut down driving on the highway on two separate occasions. While driving engine shuts off, dash board goes black, infotainment center goes black. Required to shift vehicle into park to restart after occurrence. Huge safety risk! When taken to Ford service; unable to find any issues and was told “vehicle is safe to drive”

Ford is not providing parts for this safety recall. I am forced to drive this truck with a safety issue.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact stated that upon taking the vehicle to the dealer to be repaired under NHTSA Campaign Number: 23V896000 (Power Train); the service report stated that the recall repair was completed; however, the contact continued to receive more recall notifications for the same recall. The vehicle was taken back to the dealer, who confirmed that the recall repair was not completed. The vehicle remained with the dealer for 16 days, and the dealer later informed the contact that the recall part was not available. The contact was referred to the manufacturer for assistance in obtaining the part for the recall repair. The contact picked up the vehicle from the dealer. The contact stated that there was an abnormal clicking sound coming from the rear of the vehicle while driving. Additionally, the front driver's side seat cushion was loose and could be raised up. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was unreachable. The failure mileage was approximately 17,000.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received a second notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train), that the recall repair was available for the recall repair; however, upon contacting the dealer to schedule the recall repair, the contact was informed that the part was on a national backorder. The contact stated that the manufacturer's second recall notification provided false information. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

One the drivers side seat cushion, in the front left cushion area, the seam that connects two cushion busted with 36K miles, leaving foam is visible.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (POWER TRAIN); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train), and the vehicle was taken to the local dealer and to Sedano Ford (8970 La Mesa Blvd, La Mesa, CA 91942), where it was determined that the rear axle bolts needed to be replaced; however, the parts to do the recall repair were not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was unreachable and was not made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

Cabin coolant heater failed. Windshield would not properly defrost. This was recalled in our same model year with production dates through August 31 and our truck was produced on October 2.

I received the first recall notice last May, 2025. Safety recall notice: 23S65 - 9.75" Rear Axle Bolt Breakage. No dealer within 3 hours driving has the parts for the repair 8 months later! And, they have no idea when (or even if!) those parts will be available. Once a safety issue is identified and a recall notice sent out, what time frame does the manufacturer have to make those repairs? It has been over 8 months - that is unacceptable. xxx INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

On 1/6 2026 and again on 1/19/2026 the vehicle camera display turned blue while the vehicle was operating in reverse. The camera eventually returned to normal operation. The condition cannot be reproduced on demand.

Yesterday I went to pull straight out of my parking spot after I switched from park to drive and the steering was completely locked up, so I put it in reverse to get back into my parking spot .I then put it back into park, turned the truck off waited for a few seconds turned it back on and it was fine to drive home . No service lights came on.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (POWER TRAIN); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train). The vehicle was taken to the dealer; however, the contact was informed that the manufacturer had sent two left-sided parts instead of a left-side and right-side part. In addition, the contact was informed that the parts were on back order. The vehicle had been at the dealer for four weeks unrepaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue but provided no assistance. The contact had not experienced a failure.

We have an incomplete recall, we have been told not to drive vehicle since the wheel end hub bolt is broken by Ford. We have been in touch with Ford dealership as well as Ford Motor Co. since November 13, 2025 and are still waiting for the part. It’s been now 2 months with no estimated date given.

Instrument cluster panel was rainbow now is all black unable to see how much gas in in truck tire pressure or all other important gauges.

WE ACCELERATING IN THIS VEHICLE AND YOU LET YOUR FOOT OFF THE GAS PEDAL, IT CONTINUES TO ACCELERATE FOR AT LEAST 1-2 SECONDS CREATING A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, IF THE VEHICLE DOES NOT DE-ACCELERATE IMMEDIATELY ONCE YOU TAKE YOUR FOOT OFF THE GAS PEDAL, IT IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN…VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

​"When driving on Interstate 15 in Draper/Bluffdale, external electronic interference forcefully disconnects the vehicle's infotainment and safety displays. This causes the main screen to go black, reboot, or freeze while moving at highway speeds (70+ MPH). This creates an immediate distraction hazard and disables navigation instructions during high-speed traffic flow. The vehicle's shielding is insufficient to protect the driver from this predictable external interference, leading to a recurring safety hazard in a known dead zone."

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (Power Train); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact stated that while the contact's son was driving, the steering wheel failed to steer in the intended direction, and the steering wheel seized. No warning lights were illuminated. The contact stated that the failure occurred while the contact's son was driving on a busy three-lane highway. The contact's vehicle crashed into another vehicle. No injuries were sustained. A Police report was filed. The contact was informed by the tow truck driver that the steering wheel had seized and the vehicle was inoperable to drive. The vehicle was towed to a local tow yard. In addition, the contact stated that the contact's vehicle and the other vehicle were both damaged; however the contact was still waiting for the insurance adjuster. The contact was advised by the insurance company to contact the NHTSA Hotline and report the failure. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired by an independent mechanic or dealer. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 65,000.

The contact owns a 2023 Ford F-150. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V512000 (POWER TRAIN). The vehicle was taken to the dealer for the recall repair. The contact was informed that the parts to do the recall repairs were not yet available. The contact dialed the Ford Customer Service line, and the representative informed the contact that the anticipated date for the remedy to be available was by the third quarter of 2026. The contact then dialed the number to the manufacturer's headquarters, and the representative informed the contact that the dealer would need to be contacted first to find out what parts were needed. The contact had not experienced a failure.

I was driving on highway at 60 mph when drivers side rear window suddenly shattered. It was very confusing what was going on until my wife said that the window shattered. Luckily, no on was in that seat since there was glass everywhere. I dont believe anything hit the window, there was no indication something was wrong intil the shatter noise.

I am reporting a failure of the manufacturer to provide a timely and safe remedy for Safety Recall 25V512. My local dealer, Springdale Ford in Springdale, Arkansas, officially advised me NOT to drive the vehicle on December 12, 2025, after a routine oil change, citing it as unsafe and at risk of a crash/rollaway. However, Ford has not provided a loaner or rental vehicle and has no ETA for parts. I am currently being forced to choose between driving an unsafe vehicle and being without a vehicle. They are considering giving me a rental vehicle, but the rental company they partner with does not allow their vehicles to tow RV trailers, which is why we purchased the Ford F-150. I am making monthly payments on the Ford truck and our RV travel trailer, plus insurance for both and storage fees for the RV, all while unable to drive our newly purchased vehicle of 6 months. Ford is failing to fulfill its obligation to remedy this safety defect in a reasonable manner. To compound this setback, they have asked us to increase our monthly payment by $200 to trade in our truck for a comparable vehicle, as if this were our fault.