HERE IS ANOTHER BURNED OUT TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD HTTPS://WWW.COPART.COM/LOT/34875876/PHOTOS?RESULTINDEX=14&TOTALRECORDS=21&BACKTO=%2FLOTSEARCHRESULTS%2F%3FFREE%3DTRUE&QUERY=TESLA&QUERY=TESLA&DISPLAYSTR=SEARCH%20RESULTS TESLA CLAIMS THE FIRE PROBLEM HAS BEEN CURED BY THE ADDITION OF A TITANIUM SHIELD. SO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BURNED OUT TESLAS IN THE JUNKYARDS?
2016 Tesla Model S complaints
Owner reports filed with NHTSA about this vehicle, newest first and reproduced as filed. They are unverified accounts: one proves nothing, and a pattern across many is the thing worth reading. Back to the full 2016 record →
I RECEIVED THE CAR ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THE FRONT DASHBOARD CONSOLE THAT IS A SCREEN IN FRONT OF THE WHEEL REBOOTS RANDOMLY WHEN I AM DRIVING..I HAVE TO RE START THE WHOLE SYSTEM EVERYTIME TO GET IT WORKING AND TELL ME THE SPEEDETAILS AND OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION... TESLA SAYS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND CAN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION ON HOW YOU FIX IT. *TR
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. JUST TOUCHING THE STALK CAN MAKE THE CAR GO TO FULL THROTTLE. HTTPS://FORUMS.TESLA.COM/FORUM/FORUMS/NEW-CRUISE-CONTROL-STALK NEW CRUISE CONTROL STALK THE NEW CRUISE CONTROL STALK THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED FOR AUTOPILOT DOES NOT HAVE A WHITE BUTTON ON THE END TO TURN CRUISE CONTROL ON AND OFF. THE "ON" FOR CRUISE CONTROL IS SIMPLY TAPPING THE STALK TOWARD YOU -- WHICH IS ALL TOO EASY TO DO WHEN REACHING FOR THE TURN SIGNAL. IF THE CRUISE CONTROL'S LAST SETTING WAS 70MPH AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE GOING 10MPH IN TRAFFIC, THE CAR LURCHES FORWARD IN AN ATTEMPT TO REACH THE PRESET SPEED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS SCARY AND DANGEROUS. KASNIDER50 | OCTOBER 10, 2016 BLUE85D, I CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE DISPARAGING MY "OUTRAGE" OR NOT. BUT SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME CAR I HAVE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE LESS JUDGMENTAL IN ANY CASE. MY OWNER'S MANUAL, SAYS THAT THE BUTTON (THAT NO LONGER IS FEATURED) IS/WAS HOW YOU TURN CRUISE CONTROL ON. ONLY IN THE NEWER MODELS WITHOUT A BUTTON TURN ON CRUISE CONTROL BY PULLING THE STALK TOWARD THE DRIVER. THE MANUAL SAYS NOTHING ABOUT CANCELING CRUISE CONTROL WITH THE BUTTON, ONLY BY PUSHING THE STALK AWAY. SO--I CONTINUE TO WISH THAT IT WEREN'T AS EASY AS IT IS TO TELL THE CAR "I WANT TO GO SEVENTY MILES AN HOUR...NOW!" WHEN YOU'RE TOOLING ALONG IN SLOW TRAFFIC AND SIMPLY WANT TO CHANGE LANES. MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS GOING TO DRIVE THIS CAR, SOME NOT VERY OFTEN...SO I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE HARDER TO
HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT IS UNSAFE? HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/AUTOPILOT-FAILED-TO-NOTICE-A-BUS-TODAY.78833/ AUTOPILOT FAILED TO NOTICE A BUS TODAY LOCATION:SACRAMENTO, CA STOPPED AT AN INTERSECTION BEHIND A BUS TODAY AT A RED LIGHT. DECIDED TO LOOK FOR SOME NEW MUSIC SO I TURNED AUTOPILOT ON, SEEING AS HOW I COULDN'T SEE THE RED/GREEN LIGHT AND THAT'D TELL ME WHEN TO PAY ATTENTION (CAR STARTS MOVING... DON'T TELL ME YOU GUYS NEVER USE IT FOR THIS, EITHER!). WAS AT A COMPLETE STOP ABOUT TWO CAR LENGTHS FROM THE BUS. ENGAGED AP. CAR IMMEDIATELY LURCHED FORWARD. HIT BRAKES FAST, WHICH FORTUNATELY MY FOOT WAS ALREADY OVER THE PEDAL AS I'D BEEN PREVIOUSLY STOPPED. SAT FOR A SECOND CONFUSED. I'M NOW ABOUT A CAR LENGTH FROM THE BUS. VERIFIED MY AP WAS SET TO 4 CAR LENGTHS. ENGAGED AGAIN. CAR IMMEDIATELY SHOT FORWARD, HIT BRAKES. CAR DISPLAYED THE WARNING THAT AN OBJECT WAS IN FRONT OF ME. I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT EITHER THE CAR WOULD HAVE EMERGENCY BRAKED OR I WOULD HAVE HIT THE BUS HAD I LEFT IT ENGAGED. IT DEFINITELY PULLED FORWARD FULL-POWER LIKE IT DOES IF THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU CHANGES LANES AND THE LANE IS OTHERWISE CLEAR. IT DEFINITELY MADE ME THINK OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACCIDENTALLY DROVE INTO BUILDINGS AND SUCH AND THE LITTLE REACTION TIME THEY MUST HAVE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. I'M QUITE AWARE OF HOW CLOSE AP WILL TAKE YOU WHEN STOPPED. THE BEHAVIOR WAS ABNORMAL -- NOT ONLY DID THIS NOT SEEM TO C
TESLA AUTOPILOT VESION 8 IS STILL PLACING LIVES AT RISK. JUST READ THE OWNERS COMMENTS ON THE FORUMS. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/8-0-LOST-OR-DEGRADED-CAPABILITIES.77927/PAGE-9 [XXX], WEDNESDAY AT 5:10 AM NEW AUTOPILOT IS DEFINITELY MORE DANGEROUS IN 8.0 THAN IT WAS IN 7.1. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CLOSE-CALLS WHERE IF I HAD NOT TAKING OVER, I WOULD HAVE VEERED OFF THE ROAD, INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE, OR SLAMMED INTO THE BACK OF A SLOW-MOVING VEHICLE IN MY LANE IN FRONT OF ME. [XXX], TODAY AT 5:03 AM I WAS DRIVING YESTERDAY WITH AUTOPILOT AT ABOUT 80 MPH APPROACHING STOPPED TRAFFIC (SEPARATION SETTING 7). AS USUAL THE CAR DIDN'T START STOPPING IN TIME AND THEN WHEN IT DID BEGIN TO STOP IT DIDN'T APPLY THE BRAKES HARD ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY STOP IN TIME. EVEN THE COLLISION WARNING WENT OFF JUST AS I BEGAN MANUALLY HITTING THE BRAKES. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PASS THIS INFO TO TESLA BUT THAT SURELY WAS NOT OPTIMAL. AP IS DEFINITELY SMOOTHER IN TERMS OF ACCELERATION AND DECELERATION, BUT I CAN'T USE IT AS I SERIOUSLY FEAR FOR MY LIFE. NOT GOOD. [XXX], TUESDAY AT 5:17 AM WELL - FINALLY UPDATED AND TOOK A 200 MI TRIP. AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO ME BUT FUNCTIONALITY TOOK A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK. RUNNING AP I HAD 3 OCCASIONS WHERE AP SWERVED ANOTHER DIRECTION. I AM CONFIDENT THAT HAD I NOT BEEN HOLDING THE WHEEL THERE WAS GREAT POTENTIAL FOR AN ACCIDENT. SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHEN THE CAR QUICKLY SLOWED DOWN AND CAME BACK UP TO SPEED WITH NOTHING NEARBY. NAVIGATION WAS ALL MESSED UP. HAD ME DOING
HERE IS ANOTHER TESLA MODEL S WHOSE BACK WHEEL HAS SNAPPED OFF. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23148660&ROWID=5&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# THE BROKEN SUSPENSION LINKS CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN. THE TREAD IS WORN AWAY ON THE TIRE INDICATING THAT THE WHEEL WAS TURNING FOR A LONG WHILE BEFORE THE SUSPENSION BROKE COMPLETELY OFF. THE SUSPENSION APPEARS TO HAVE COLLAPSED ON ALL 4 WHEELS CAUSING THE TIRES TO JAM UP INSIDE THE WHEEL WELLS AND PLACING HIGH STRESSES ON THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS. THIS SAME FAULT IS BEING SEEN OVER AND OVER ON TESLAS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FITTED WITH BUMP STOPS OR LIMIT STOPS ON THE AIR SUSPENSION. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SAFETY DEFECT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
TESLA S OFFER REAR SEAT OPTION FOR KIDS BUT ITS NOT SAFE FOR THE KIDS AND TEHY SHOULD STOP OFFERING THAT. THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO AIR VENT FOR THE ERAR SEATS . ANOTHER WORDS KIDS WILL FEEL HOT IN THE SUMMER AND COLD IN THE WINTER WHICH COULD RESULTS IN INCIDENTS . I HAVE TALKED WITH TESLA CORPORATES AND THEY DONT FEEL LIKE CARING ABOUT . WONDERING HOW WOULD SO CALLED VEHICLE SAFETY DEPARTMENT APPROVED IT WHICH CHECKING THE FACTS AND SAFETY FOR THE KIDS . HOPE TO GET ANSWER AND RESOLUTION ON THIS
TESLA HAS CREATED A MONSTER IN THE FORM OF AUTOPILOT. THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM AN OWNER EXPLAINS IT PERFECTLY. -- GREEN1, TODAY AT 4:19 AM NEW MDMGSO47 SAID: ↑ SO YOU CAN PUT THE TOP OF ONE THIGH UNDER THE STEERING WHEEL TO KEEP THE WHEEL FROM TURNING AND YOU ARE GOOD?--- THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY TO WORK THAN USING YOUR HANDS. IF I USE MY HANDS ONE OF 2 THINGS HAPPENS: 1) IT DOESN'T DETECT MY HANDS BECAUSE I'M EITHER GRIPPING THE WHEEL LIGHTLY, OR AM MAKING THE SAME CORRECTIONS THE CAR IS TO STAY IN THE LANE, OR 2) I GRIP THE WHEEL FIRMLY AND STEER AGAINST THE AUTOSTEER AND IT DISENGAGES AUTOSTEER, AND USUALLY SWERVES OUT OF THE CENTRE OF THE LANE. 1) WILL CAUSE ME TO LOSE THE ABILITY TO USE AUTOSTEER AFTER THE NAGS PUT ME IN THE PENALTY BOX 2) IS DANGEROUS, AND WILL CAUSE ME TO LOSE THE ABILITY TO USE AUTOSTEER AFTER I DISENGAGE IT TRYING TO SATISFY THE NAG I CHOSE OPTION 3) DON'T ADD NAGS TO A SYSTEM THAT WORKED PERFECTLY WELL BEFORE THEM, AND WHICH I OWN SO TESLA HAS NO RIGHT TO REMOVE FEATURES FROM.--- HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/RED-HANDS-OF-SHAME.77954/PAGE-2 --- PLEASE BAN THIS EXPERIMENTAL AUTOPILOT BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE AUTOPILOT VERSION 8.0 HERE IS A NEW VIDEO THAT HAS JUST BEEN UPLOADED TO YOUTUBE HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=SC3LURR6LOQ TESLA 8.0 SOFTWARE AUTOPILOT RADAR CHANGE REVIEW THE OWNER HAS JUST DOWNLOADED THE NEW SOFTWARE. HE COMPLAINS THAT HE IS DISAPPOINTED HE NOW MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL BECAUSE THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING AUTOPILOT? HE TESTS IT OUT ON LOCAL ROADS WITH NO SOLID BARRIER AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC. HE PASSES ONCOMING CARS AND A LINE OF TREES WHILST DRIVING HANDS AND FEET OFF FOR 90% OF THE TIME. HE EXPRESSES A BELIEF THAT THE RADAR NOW MAKES THE SYSTEM SAFER. ELON MUSK HAS STATED THAT THE USE OF RADAR IN VERSION 8.0 MEANS THAT THE FATAL CRASH UNDER A TRUCK WOULD PROBABLY NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE NEW VERSION 8.0. MANY OWNERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE HANDS FREE FOR 90% OF THE TIME. THIS IS A GIANT STEP BACKWARDS FOR ROAD SAFETY. PLEASE ACT QUICKLY TO PREVENT PEOPLE BEING KILLED.
HERE IS A FORUM POST FROM AN OWNER WHOSE AIR SUSPENSION HAS COLLAPSED (SHORTLY AFTER AN UNRELATED VERY MINOR COLLISION). HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/AIR-SUSPENSION-FAILING-ON-THE-SAME-DAY-SOMEONE-HIT-ME.77914/#POST-1751484 "DOHMER, 25 MINUTES AGO NEW SERVICE ADVISOR SAID THE TWO DAMAGES ARE UNLIKELY RELATED SO THEY WILL FIX THE SUSPENSION PROBLEM UNDER WARRANTY. SEEMS SERVICE IS PRETTY GOOD SO FAR. I'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY BROKE WHEN I PICK UP THE CAR NEXT WEEK" AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH AND FROM THE OWNERS COMMENTS THE CAR IS ALMOST SCRAPING THE GROUND AND THE WHEELS ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE WHEEL WELL LINERS. THE CAR DOES NOT HAVE BUMP STOPS ON THE SUSPENSION AND A SMALL AIR LEAK CAN CAUSE THE CAR TO BOTTOM OUT. FROM LOOKING AT ALL THE SALVAGE WRECKS IT SEEMS THAT THIS FAILURE IS EXTREMELY COMMON AND CAN ALSO LEAD TO BREAKAGE OF OTHER SUSPENSION PARTS WHEN THE WHEEL WELL LINERS FLOG ABOUT INSIDE THE WELL. I AM SURPRISED THAT THIS CAR COULD PASS REGULATORY STANDARDS IF THERE IS NO BUMP STOP TO PREVENT THE SUSPENSION COLLAPSING TO SUCH A LOW LEVEL. PLEASE ASK THE MANUFACTURER WHY THE CAR DOES NOT HAVE THIS SIMPLE SAFETY FEATURE.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT UPGRADED VERSION 8.0 IT IS CLEAR FROM THE MANY YOUTUBE VIDEOS ALREADY POSTED THAT OWNERS ARE NOW PLACING EVEN MORE TRUST IN THE AUTOPILOT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE RADAR AND OTHER ENHANCEMENTS MAKE IT SAFER THAN BEFORE. ALSO THE MESSAGE TO HOLD STEERING WHEEL IS STILL BEING IGNORED AND OWNERS ARE OPERATING HANDS FREE FOR MORE THAN 3 MINUTES AT A TIME WHILE FIDDLING WITH THE DISPLAY SCREEN AND TAKING THEIR EYES OFF THE ROADS. I WILL GIVE YOU LINKS TO VIDEOS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSTED AND I AM SURE THAT THERE IS EVEN WORSE BEHAVIOR HAPPENING OFF THE CAMERA. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=ISZ3FSBE_PG OWNER TESTING HOW LONG HE CAN DRIVE HANDS FREE BEFORE AUTOPILOT IS DISABLED HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=G42WDKU11K8 USING AUTOPILOT ON LOCAL ROADS RATHER THAN FREEWAYS WITH A SOLID BARRIER AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC, MUCH OF THE TIME HANDS FREE. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=U7JNHFWZ3EC HANDS FREE, OVERCONFIDENT AND USING AUTOPILOT IN INAPPROPRIATE CIRCUMSTANCES. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=WRM0E5ZO4KQ USING AUTOPILOT ON FREEWAY BUT WITH A LOT OF HANDS FREE TIME AND FIDDLING WITH TOUCH SCREEN. THERE ARE ALSO COMMENTS ON THE VIDEOS THAT THE AUTOPILOT BRAKING IS LEFT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT AND THAT OWNERS FEAR IT WILL NOT STOP IN TIME. THEN THEY SAY THAT THEY LEARN TO TRUST IT AFTER A WHILE THIS LEAVES LITTLE TIME TO REACT IF THE SYSTEM FAILS. I BELIEVE THAT THE INQUIRY INTO AUTOPILOT SHOULD NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT TO TRY AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE DANGER POSED TO ALL ROAD USERS. HERE IS A FORUM POST DISCUSSING HOW TO AVOID THE NAG. PEDRISCOLL, TODAY AT 2:51 PM GAVIN.BELSON SAID: ↑ I HAVE THIS EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE. I HAVE ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT IT'S LIKE THIS FOR EVERYONE, BUT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER POSTS IN THIS THREAD, MAYBE I'M WRONG. DO OTHERS FIND THAT SIMPLY RESTING THEIR HANDS COMFORTABLY ON THE BOTTOM OF THE WHEEL IS SUFFICIENT TO AVOID THE "HOLD STEERING WHEEL" PROMPT OR TO DISMISS IT WHEN IT APPEARS? HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/7-1-8-0-SEEMS-LIKE-AN-UPDATE-FOR-TESLAS-LEGAL-TEAM-AND-A-NET-LOSS-FOR-CUSTOMERS.77702/PAGE-6 "FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I'M ALWAYS HOLDING THE WHEEL, I STILL GET THE PROMPT ON EVERY CURVE, AND I HAVE TO "JIGGLE" THE WHEEL TO MAKE IT GO AWAY. I KEEP ONE HAND COMFORTABLY RESTING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE WHEEL AND NEVER GET A NAG. THIS HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE AP WAS ORIGINALLY RELEASED FOR ME. INTERESTING THAT OTHERS HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE" DRIVING WITH ONE HAND LOOSELY GRIPPING THE BOTTOM OF THE STEERING WHEEL IS INTRINSICALLY UNSAFE. COUPLED WITH THE FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY CREATED BY AUTOPILOT, DISTRACTION, AND SLEEPINESS IT MEANS THAT THE REACTION TIME NEED TO REGAIN CONTROL IN AN EMERGENCY IS DANGEROUSLY INCREASED. PLEASE LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF HOW AUTOPILOT IS BEING USED BY OWNERS, IT CANNOT POSSIBLY BE TWICE AS SAFE AS A HUMAN DRIVER AS ELON MUSK HAS CLAIMED.
HERE IS A NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO IN WHICH THE OWNER PRANKS PASSENGERS USING AUTOPILOT. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=UML4PML22PM THIS IS MEANT TO BE FUNNY. I DOUBT THAT THE OTHER ROAD USERS OR INDEED THE PASSENGERS WOULD HAVE FOUND IT SO AMUSING IF THEY HAD KNOWN THAT THEIR LIVES WERE BEING PLACED IN DANGER. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREVENT OWNERS FRO DOING STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS TWICE AS SAFE AS A HUMAN DRIVER. I INTEND TO REPORT THIS CASE TO THE HIGHWAY PATROL AND HAVE PRESERVED THE VIDEO AS EVIDENCE. PLEASE HALT THIS EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY
AN EVEN MORE DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AUTOPILOT EXPERIMENT. THIS MAN HAS COLLECTED A RENTAL TESLA TO PERFORM HIS PRANKS. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=RMVOALPQHJC JUST AS SOON AS HE DRIVES AWAY FROM THE HIRE DEPOT AND ON AN UNDIVIDED BUSY ROAD HE ENGAGES AUTOPILOT AND GOES HANDS FREE WHILST TALIKING TO THE CAMERA. EVERY CUSTOMER THAT RENTS ONE OF THESE CARS IS LIKELY TO DO THE SAME THING. THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER TO COMPLETE YOUR INVESTIGATION OF AUTOPILOT. HAVE THIS SYSTEM DISABLED RIGHT NOW UNTIL IT CAN BE PROVEN TO BE SAFE.
HERE IS A VERY DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE TESLA AUTOPILOT SITUATION. HERE IS A NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT SHOWS HOW TO DEFEAT THE AUTOPILOT NAG AND WARNING BEEPS BY THE USE OF 2 RUBBER BANDS. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=WHHRNHNM1XK THIS VIDEO HAS ALREADY HAD OVER 300 HITS. IT WILL VERY SOON BE COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO ELIMINATE THOSE ANNOYING NAGS. OWNERS ARE NOW FREE TO INDULGE IN WHATEVER RECREATIONAL PLEASURES THEY ENJOY THE MOST. THE ONLY WAY TO CURE THIS KIND OF RECKLESS BEHAVIOR IS TO BAN THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. PLEASE TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
HERE IS A FORUM POST STARTED TODAY. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/90-DEGREE-LEFT-TURN.77349/ THIS SHOWS NOT ONLY THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS UNRELIABLE BUT THAT THAT IT IS STILL BEING USED IN CITY TRAFFIC ON UNDIVIDED ROADS. QUOTE:SIR GUACAMOLAF, YESTERDAY AT 10:22 AM SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENED WITH AUTOPILOT TODAY (1 YEAR OLD). I WAS USING AP IN AN INSIDE ROAD (CITY), ON A LIGHT BEHIND A UGLIER THAN YETI'S BUTT PORSCHE PANAMERA. LIGHT TURNS GREEN, AND MY CAR, TOTALLY NEGOTIATED A FULL LEFT TURN ACROSS 3 LANES INTO A DIVIDED TWO LANE ROAD, ALL ON IT'S OWN. YEAH I HAD MY HANDS ON THE WHEEL, BUT WOW! NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A S/W UPDATE LATELY BTW. AND I'VE DRIVEN ON THIS ROAD NUMEROUS TIMES, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AP HAS DONE THIS. IT WAS PROMISED THAT THE AUTOPILOT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO USE ON DIVIDED ROADS. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED IF THIS SITUATION CONTINUES THEN IT IS A CERTAINTY THAT MORE LIVES WILL BE LOST PLEASE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION.
MUST WE WAIT FOR MORE DEATHS BEFORE THE TESLA AUTOPILOT IS BANNED? HERE IS A NEW VIDEO FROM RUSSIA? SHOWING THE DRIVER PLACING LIVES IN DANGER. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=GM_5OEIDD_E HERE IS A VIDEO SHOWING THE DEATH OF A YOUNG MAN IN CHINA AND THE EFFECT THIS TRAGEDY HAS ON HIS FAMILY. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=1RSIEK9AFUG THE VICTIM WAS AN INTELLIGENT AND SUCCESSFUL MAN WHO WAS USING THE AUTOPILOT IN JUST THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN MARKETED AS BEING CAPABLE. LIVES ARE AT RISK ALL OVER THE WORLD AND TESLA HAS BEEN SLOW TO COME FORWARD WITH REPORTS OF CRASHES. PLEASE STOP THIS EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY.
HERE IS A MODEL S IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=22506868&ROWID=2&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS THE LH FRONT STEERING KNUCKLE HAS SNAPPED IN HALF. THE STEEL BUMPER BAR WHICH EXTENDS ALMOST THE FULL WIDTH OF THE CAR IS UNDAMAGED. IT IS MOST UNLIKELY THAT THE DAMAGE TO THE FRONT SUSPENSION WAS THE RESULT OF THE CRASH. IT IS FAR MORE LIKELY THAT IT WAS THE CAUSE OF IT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE WHY SO MANY EXAMPLES OF SNAPPED SUSPENSIONS ARE OCCURRING ON TESLAS THAN ON ANY COMPARABLE VEHICLE.
HERE IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE WAY IN WHICH OWNERS ARE BEHAVING IN REAL LIFE. THE PROPOSED UPGRADES TO THE AUTOPILOT WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THE BEHAVIOR SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=AEU5OL2IR4M IN COMMON WITH THE SELF-REPORTED BEHAVIOR OF OWNERS ON THE FORUMS, DRIVERS ARE DRIVING HANDS FREE EXCEPT FOR GIVING THE WHEEL A GENTLE TWEAK JUST OFTEN ENOUGH TO PREVENT THE HOLD WHEEL NAG. 90% OF THE TIME IT IS HANDS FREE. THE SYSTEM DOES GUARD AGAINST THE DRIVER HAVING TOTALLY FALLEN ASLEEP BUT IT DOES NOT CAUSE HIM TO KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL AT ALL TIMES TO ENSURE SAFE CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. IF THERE IS ANY MALFUNCTION OF THE AUTOPILOT OR A MECHANICAL FAILURE OR BLOWN TIRE THIS HANDS FREE DRIVING CAN KILL IN AN INSTANT. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A KNOW ALL. I AM TRYING TO COUNTER THE FALSE CONFIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE AUTOPILOT AND THE UNWILLINGNESS OF TESLA OWNERS TO DESIST FROM HANDS FREE DRIVING.
THIS IS YET ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE AUTOPILOT. PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO IN FULL. IT SHOWS HOW AN INTELLIGENT AND WELL EDUCATED DRIVER CHOOSES TO USE THE AUTOPILOT WITHOUT HAVING ANY IDEA THAT HE IS PLACING HIS OWN LIFE AND THAT OF OTHER ROAD USERS IN EXTREME DANGER. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=55A7NZXVTRQ HE CHOOSES TO DRIVE WITH ONE HAND NEAR THE WHEEL BECAUSE ACTUALLY PLACING HANDS ON THE WHEEL CAUSES TOO MANY DISCONNECTIONS OF THE AUTOPILOT. HE THINKS HE WILL HAVE TIME TO TAKE OVER CONTROL IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG. HE PASSES INCHES AWAY FROM ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON UNDIVIDED ROADS WITH A COMBINED SPEED OF GREATER THAN 200 KM/H. EVEN AFTER THE RECENT FATAL ACCIDENT CAUSED BY AUTOPILOT OWNERS HAVE BEEN TOLD BY ELON MUSK THAT AUTOPILOT IS SAFER THAN HUMAN DRIVERS. THIS IS SIMPLY UNTRUE. OTHER ROAD USERS DID NOT GIVE PERMISSION FOR THEIR LIVES TO BE PLACED AT RISK BY A THREE TON CAR BEING DRIVEN TOWARDS THEM HANDS FREE. THE DRIVER IN THIS VIDEO IS NOT TO BE BLAMED FOR BELIEVING THAT IT IS SAFE TO DRIVE IN THIS FASHION. TESLA IS TO BLAME FOR EXAGGERATING THE CAPABILITIES AND THE SAFETY OF THE AUTOPILOT. THIS AUTOPILOT HAS BEEN RELEASED ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS CONSTANTLY BEING ALTERED BY SOFTWARE UPDATES. NONE OF THE CARS THAT HAVE HAD AUTOPILOT ENABLED OVER THE AIR HAVE BEEN PUT THROUGH TESTING TO ENSURE THAT ALL SENSORS AND OTHER HARDWARE IS WORKING CORRECTLY. PLEASE STOP THIS EXPERIMENT BEFORE MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED.
HERE IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. HERE IS A RECENTLY UPLOADED VIDEO OF A TESLA EMPLOYEE GIVING A CUSTOMER A TEST DRIVE AND DEMONSTRATION OF AUTOPILOT. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=TBCX2O-OTSO THE DEMONSTRATOR IS ONLY PLAYING LIP-SERVICE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT DRIVERS SHOULD KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL. HE ASSURES THE DRIVER THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS PERFECTLY SAFE AND ALLOWS HIM TO TAKE HIS HANDS OFF THE WHEEL AND DRIVE WHILE DISTRACTED. HE EVEN REACHES OVER AND PUTS HIS HANDS THROUGH THE SPOKES OF THE STEERING WHEEL TO PERFORM AN AUTOMATIC LANE CHANGE WITHOUT EVEN GLANCING IN THE MIRROR. IF THIS IS THE KIND OF INSTRUCTION BEING GIVEN TO NEW OWNERS THEN THE SITUATION WILL ONLY GET WORSE WHEN THE NEW OWNER BECOMES OVERCONFIDENT IN THE SYSTEM AND PERHAPS INSTRUCTS HIS PARTNER OR OTHER PEOPLE TO HAVE A GO AT LETTING AUTOPILOT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. THE PROBLEM IS NOT JUST THAT THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED BUT THAT THE WAY IT IS BEING PITCHED TO CUSTOMERS IS RECKLESS IN THE EXTREME. PLEASE STOP THIS EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY.
THIS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. THIS VIDEO HAS JUST BEEN UPLOADED. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=VCC7JH8UX-E HERE IS AN OWNER DRIVING HANDS FREE AT HIGH SPEED WHILE WAVING HIS ARMS AROUND AND EVEN CROSSING HIS ARMS ACROSS HIS CHEST. THE IRRESPONSIBLE MARKETING AND PROMOTION OF THE TESLA AUTOPILOT HAS ENCOURAGED THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR. WHILST AN INQUIRY INTO THE AUTOPILOT IS STILL IN PROGRESS TESLA IS PLANNING TO ROLL OUT YET ANOTHER VERSION BETA RELEASE. I BELIEVE THAT IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE GOAL-POSTS AND SIDESTEP THE INQUIRY. THE PRUDENT THING WOULD BE TO DISABLE THE AUTOPILOT UNTIL IT IS PROVEN TO BE SAFE.
THERE HAS BEEN A FATAL CRASH IN THE NETHERLANDS WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY SUSPENSION FAILURE. HTTP://WWW.AD.NL/AMERSFOORT/BRANDWEER-WORSTELT-MET-GECRASHTE-TESLA~A1EC61B0/70382423/ PLEASE SEE ATTACHED PHOTOGRAPH. BACK RH WHEEL SKEWED OVER AT EXTREME ANGLE. THAT PART OF THE CAR HAS NOT BEEN DAMAGED BY THE CRASH. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT SEIZED BRAKE CALIPERS ON THE MODEL S AND THE FAILURE OF TESLA SERVICE TO DETECT OR REMEDY THE PROBLEM. I BELIEVE THIS IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM ON TESLAS CAUSED BY ROAD DIRT THROWN ONTO THE INSIDE OF THE BRAKE ROTORS. HERE IS ONE OF MANY THREADS DISCUSSING THE PROBLEM. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/6TH-DRIVE-UNIT-REPLACEMENT-AND-MORE.72974/PAGE-5 I CHECKED AND 3 OUT OF 4 INSIDE BRAKE PADS WERE FROZEN IN PLACE BECAUSE OF ENCRUSTING OF ROAD GRIME. ONLY THE OUTSIDE PADS WERE DOING ANY WORK ... AND IN RETROSPECT ... THAT'S WHY MY STOPPING DISTANCES AND STOPPING POWER WERE DECLINING. ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE ROTORS BEING USED FOR FRICTION. CALIPERS WORK MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY PINCH THE DISC FROM BOTH SIDES, RATHER THAN "LEAN ONE PAD AGAINST ONE SIDE". HEATING UP THE ROTOR ON ONE SIDE ONLY... THAT WILL PROBABLY EVENTUALLY LEAD TO REAL WARP. I HAD BEEN DRIVING FOR PROBABLY A YEAR WITH LESS THAN 50% BRAKING POWER AVAILABLE. HERE'S THE THING... MY CAR PASSED ITS ANNUAL SERVICE WHILE THE PADS WERE FROZEN! THE CAR WAS DRIVEN AND GOT A CHECK FOR BRAKES. IT'S THE KIND OF PROBLEM YOU DON'T NOTICE UNLESS YOU'RE DRIVING FAST AND NEED TO BRAKE HARD ON A HIWAY. SO THE CITY TEST TESLA DOES, WON'T NECESSARILY CATCH THIS PROBLEM. A VISUAL INSPECTION CANNOT BE MADE RELIABLY ENOUGH TO SEE FROZEN INSIDE PADS. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE CALIPERS OFF AND THEN IT BECOMES PRETTY APPARENT. SEE ALSO THIS THREAD REGARDING RUSTED BRAKES IN CANADA HTTP://ROULEZELECTRIQUE.COM/LENTRETIEN
HERE IS A DISCUSSION ON THE TESLA MOTORS CLUB FORUM: HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/HIT-CURB-AND-NOW-ITS-THE-START-OF-MONTH-4-WAITING-FOR-REPAIR.72674/ SADOWNER, JUN 28, 2016 HELLO ALL, I THINK I'M ON MY WAY TO A WORLD RECORD FOR LONGEST WAIT TIME TO FIX A CAR WITH ZERO BODY DAMAGE. IN MARCH 2016 I HIT A CURB WITH MY BRAND NEW TESLA P85D. I BLEW THE FRONT DRIVERS SIDE TIRE AND DAMAGED THE RIM BUT THERE WAS ZERO BODY DAMAGE. NOW WE'RE THREE DAYS FROM JULY AND I'M STILL GETTING THE WHOLE "WE FOUND SOMETHING ELSE LINE". YESTERDAY THEY SAID THEY FOUND A SUSPENSION KNUCKLE THAT NEEDED REPLACING!!! HOW THEY CAN HAVE A CAR FOR MONTHS ON END AND NOT REALIZE THAT SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS SO OBVIOUS AS A SUSPENSION KNUCKLE NEEDS REPLACING IS BEYOND ME. I HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY PATIENT UP UNTIL THIS POINT BUT MAN, WHERE DOES ONE DRAW THE LINE? TOWARDS THE END OF THAT THREAD OWNER REPORTS THAT THE TOTAL REPAIR BILL IS $30,000 THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS OF THE TESLA ARE RIDICULOUSLY FRAGILE. THE WHEEL DOES NOT EVEN HAVE ANY BROKEN SPOKES. WHY HAS THE STEERING KNUCKLE BEEN DAMAGED BY A MINOR CURB BUMP INCIDENT? PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE FIRE ISSUE ON TESLA CARS. THERE HAS BEEN A RECENT FIRE IN FRANCE HTTP://ARSTECHNICA.COM/CARS/2016/08/TESLA-MODEL-S-FRANCE-BATTERY-FIRE/ THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN TWO BURNED OUT TESLA THAT HAVE SHOWN UP IN THE SALVAGE YARDS (PHOTOS ATTACHED). HTTPS://WWW.FLICKR.COM/PHOTOS/136377865@N05/22399814414/IN/ALBUM-72157661343139261/ THE FIRES IN THE SALVAGE YARD CARS HAVE ALMOST CERTAINLY BEEN CAUSED BY COLLAPSED SUSPENSIONS. THE TESLA IN THE INCIDENT IN FRANCE LOOKS VERY LOW TO THE GROUND AT THE FRONT OF THE CAR. THE ORIGINAL INQUIRY INTO TESLA FIRES WAS CONCLUDED WHEN TESLA ADVISED THAT THE RIDE HEIGHT WAS RAISED FOR SAFETY AND A TITANIUM SAFETY SHIELD WAS FITTED. THE RIDE HEIGHT ONLY REMAINED HIGH FOR A FEW MONTHS AND WAS THEN DROPPED ONCE MORE. THE TITANIUM SHIELD DOES LITTLE TO PROTECT THE BATTERY IN CASES OF SUSPENSION COLLAPSE. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE VIDEOS OF THE TITANIUM SHIELD PULVERIZING A CONCRETE BLOCK AND A CAR ALTERNATOR ARE FAKED. HTTP://ARSTECHNICA.COM/GADGETS/2014/03/SHIELDS-UP-TESLA-MODEL-S-GAINS-FREE-TITANIUM-AND-ALUMINUM-ARMOR-UPGRADE/ THE CONCRETE BLOCK AND THE ALTERNATOR IN THE LOW QUALITY VIDEO DO NOT OBEY NEWTON'S FIRST LAW AND DO NOT EXHIBIT THE MECHANICAL STRENGTH THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED OF THEM. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE RELIED UPON THESE CLAIMS AND REPRESENTATIONS MADE FOR THE RELATIVELY FLIMSY SHIELD PLATE WHICH IS ATTACHED ONLY BY PAN-HEAD SCREWS. IF THE CELLS IN THE BATTERY ARE HOT DUE TO RECENT CHARGING OR HEAVY
WHILE DRIVING AT 60 MPH ON A HIGHWAY FRONT MOTOR SHORTED LOOSING POWER AND CAR SLOWED TO A HALT AT A UNSAFE HIGHWAY LOCATION.
ON IH90 BETWEEN GILLETTE WY AND BILLINGS MT ON AUG 8, 2016 I WAS DRIVING AT 75 MPH WITH AUTOSTEER ENGAGED. THE DAY WAS CLEAR, IT WAS ABOUT 9AM, AND THE ROAD LANES WERE CLEARLY MARKED. AS I WAS GOING AROUND A MODERATE CURVE (NO SPEED REDUCTION SUGGESTED) IN THE RIGHT LANE, THE CAR SUDDENLY VEERED TOWARD THE RIGHT SHOULDER. I HAD MY HAND ON THE WHEEL, BUT THE RIGHT TWO WHEELS WENT PAST THE RUMBLE STRIP AND ONTO THE SHOULDER BEFORE I COULD BRING THE CAR BACK ONTO THE ROAD, DISENGAGING AUTOSTEER. IF AUTOSTEER HAD CONTINUED THE CONTROL THE CAR, I AM CERTAIN WE WOULD HAVE LEFT THE ROAD AT HIGH SPEED AND CRASHED THE CAR. HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO CRASH, AND WE CONTINUED ON OUR JOURNEY. I REPORTED THIS INCIDENT TO TESLA AT THE TIME IT OCCURRED. AT THE TIME WE WERE ON A 26 DAY ROAD TRIP ACROSS COUNTRY. I HAD PREVIOUSLY NOTED THAT AUTOSTEER HAD TRIED TO VEER THE CAR TO THE RIGHT, BUT NOT AS AGGRESSIVELY AS THIS INCIDENT. EACH TIME IT OCCURRED, HOWEVER, I HAD TO DISENGAGE AUTOSTEER AND TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THE CAR.
ONE AUGUST 1, APPROX. 8AM WHILE DRIVING NORTHBOUND ON THE VETERANS EXPRESSWAY WITHOUT ANY OTHER VEHICLES AROUND. I WAS ON AUTOPILOT GOING EXACTLY THE SPEED LIMIT AND MY MODEL S SUDDENLY GAVE ME AN ALERT, SHOWED A RED FLASHING CAR TOUCHING THE FRONT OF MY CAR IN THE DISPLAY, AND SLAMMED ON THE BREAKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY. I RECOVERED AND REPORTED THE INCIDENT TO TESLA WHO RESPONDED THAT THIS WAS "NORMAL" AND NO FAULTS WERE DETECTED.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT MADE IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY. HERE IS A NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO SHOWING A DRIVER IN MEXICO DRIVING HANDS FREE ON CURVING UNDIVIDED ROADS AND PASSING ONCOMING TRAFFIC JUST INCHES AWAY. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=3NB_EU43O1Y "USANDO EL AUTOPILOT DE TESLA EN CARRETERAS SECUNDARIAS" THE DRIVER IS OBVIOUSLY UNAWARE OF HOW DANGEROUS THIS PRACTICE IS. THE CAR PERMITS HIM TO DO THIS. THERE DO NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY HOLD STEERING WHEEL NAGS. A LARGE NUMBER OF OWNERS HAVE GAINED THE PERCEPTION THAT THIS IS A TRUE FAIL-SAFE AUTOPILOT RATHER THAN A BETA RELEASE. PLEASE HALT THIS OUT OF CONTROL EXPERIMENT BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.
HERE IS A MODEL S FRESHLY ARRIVED IN THE JUNKYARD. IT HAS DONE JUST 210 MILES AND THE FRONT WHEEL AND SUSPENSION HAS SIMPLY SNAPPED OFF. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO CRASH DAMAGE. THE WHEEL IS GOUGED AND THE TIRE IS PEELED OFF SHOWING THAT THE WHEEL WAS STILL ROLLING FORWARD WHEN THE WHEEL SNAPPED OFF. THE FRACTURED COMPONENTS ARE CLEARLY VISIBLE IN THE ATTACHED PHOTOGRAPH. THIS CAN NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY A COLLISION BUT IS SIMPLY THE RESULT OF A WEAKNESS IN THE TESLA SUSPENSION COMPONENTS. THIS DEFECT IS PUTTING MANY LIVES IN DANGER PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS AS A MATTER OF URGENCY.
HERE IS A REPORT OF A CRASH BETWEEN A TESLA MODEL S AND A BMW IN SWITZERLAND HTTP://ELECTREK.CO/2016/07/26/TESLA-MODEL-S-UNINJURED-FRONTAL-CRASH-BMW-TUNNEL-GALLERY/ AT FIRST GLANCE IT APPEARS THAT THE FRONT WHEEL HAS FALLEN OFF THE BMW SINCE IT IS LYING ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE CAR. CLOSER EXAMINATION REVEALS THAT THE WHEEL AND STEERING KNUCKLE ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE TESLA. THE TESLA STEERING KNUCKLE IS THE MK 2 VERSION WHICH USES A WEBBED H SECTION RATHER THAN THE HOLLOW CASTING USED ON EARLIER VERSIONS. IMAGE OF TESLA STEERING KNUCKLE: HTTPS://WWW.FLICKR.COM/PHOTOS/136377865@N05/25665362065/IN/ALBUM-72157658490111523/ I HAVE ATTACHED PHOTOGRAPH OF THE CRASH SCENE SHOWING THE TESLA WHEEL AND SUSPENSION ON THE GROUND. THE MAGAZINE ARTICLE CREDITS THE TESLA WITH PROTECTING THE OCCUPANTS BUT FAILS TO MENTION THE DETACHED WHEEL THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE CAUSE OF THE CRASH. TESLAS ARE SOLD ALL OVER THE WORLD AND I BELIEVE THIS CRASH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DURING ANY INVESTIGATION INTO THE TESLA SUSPENSION PROBLEMS. *TR
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT HERE IS A VERY RECENT VIDEO MADE BY AN OWNER IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA. . HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=HGUQ-6HGM0U HE IS NOT TAKING THE ADVICE TO HOLD THE WHEEL SERIOUSLY AND HIS PLACING LIVES AT RISK BY HIS RECKLESS BEHAVIOR. THIS SAME BEHAVIOR IS TAKING PLACE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND WILL CERTAINLY CAUSE MORE DEATHS UNLESS THIS UNREGULATED EXPERIMENT IS STOPPED IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE TAKE ACTION
WHILE ACCELERATING AT A FREEWAY ON-RAMP FROM A STAND STILL, THE ACCELERATOR PEDDLE SNAPPED OFF AT FULL THROTTLE. NO ACCIDENT OCCURRED, WAS ABLE TO GET OFF THE FREEWAY SAFELY BY PRESSING ON THE REMAINING PEDDLE WITH HAND.
ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 13, 2016, MY MINOR SON WAS DRIVING MY TESLA (VIN [XXX]) NORTHBOUND ON ROUND HILL ROAD IN GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, WITH THE AUTOPILOT ENGAGED. AT APPROXIMATELY 3:50PM, THE TESLA APPROACHED A VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED PARTIALLY ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD AND PARTIALLY ON THE ROAD IN FRONT OF 273 ROUND HILL ROAD. THE VEHICLE OBSCURED THE WHITE LINE ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD. RATHER THAN MOVING TO THE LEFT TO AVOID THE PARKED VEHICLE, THE TESLA CONTINUED ON THE SAME PATH. AT THE LAST MOMENT MY SON GRABBED THE STEERING WHEEL AND MOVED THE TESLA TO THE LEFT, BUT NOT SOON ENOUGH/FAR ENOUGH. THE TESLA'S RIGHT SIDE COLLIDED WITH THE PARKED VEHICLE'S LEFT SIDE. MY SON BELIEVES THAT HAD HE NOT GRABBED THE STEERING WHEEL, THE RIGHT FRONT AREA OF THE TESLA WOULD HAVE HIT THE REAR OF THE PARKED VEHICLE. TO THE BEST OF HIS KNOWLEDGE THE BRAKES ON THE TESLA DID NOT ENGAGE. NO ONE WAS HURT. THE POLICE WERE NOT CALLED. ROUND HILL ROAD IS NOT A DIVIDED HIGHWAY, HOWEVER IT IS A WIDE, TWO LANE ROAD WITH FRESHLY PAINTED DOUBLE YELLOW LINES DOWN THE MIDDLE AND A FRESHLY PAINTED WHITE LINE ON THE EDGE. IT WAS A SUNNY DAY, NO FOG. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR
HERE IS A REPORT OF TWO TESLAS INVOLVED IN A CRASH: HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/JUST-SAW-TWO-TESLAS-IN-A-CRASH-ONE-NEW-WITHOUT-PLATES.74465/ "SOCAL JIMMY, TODAY AT 2:55 PM DRIVING DOWN PCH IN REDONDO BEACH AND SAW THIS, TWO TESLA'S APPEAR TO HAVE SIDESWIPED EACH OTHER. A COUPLE IN ONE AND TWO CHICKS IN THE OTHER. WHITE CAR HAS FRONT END DAMAGE AND THE BLACK ONE, THE REAR WHEEL IS BUSTED OFF. BAD NIGHT FOR THESE TWO FELLOW TESLA DRIVERS." PHOTOS ARE ATTACHED. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR THE BACK WHEEL TO HAVE SNAPPED OFF THE BLACK TESLA NOR FOR THE FRONT WHEEL ON THE WHITE TESLA TO HAVE BECOME JAMMED BACK IN THE WHEEL WELL. IT SEEMS THAT THESE CARS CAN NOT BE DRIVEN HARD WITHOUT THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS FALLING APART.
HERE IS ANOTHER TESLA MODEL S IN THE JUNKYARD: HTTP://WWW.COPART.COM/US/LOT/26502206?SEARCHID=2012603337 THIS CAR HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN A MAJOR CRASH. THE FRONT SUSPENSION BALL JOINT HAS PULLED OUT OF THE STEERING KNUCKLE. THE TIRE IS PEELED OFF THE RIM. THERE SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN OF FAILURE IN THE TESLA SUSPENSION WHICH IS CAUSING CRASHES. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS CRASH, IT SEEMS PROBABLE THAT THE BROKEN SUSPENSION WAS THE CAUSE OF THE CRASH RATHER THAN THE RESULT OF IMPACT DAMAGE. PLEASE NOTE THAT I HAVE SUPPLIED A FICTITIOUS US ADDRESS TO COMPLY WITH YOUR WEBSITE REQUIREMENTS, MY CORRECT NAME AND CONTACT DETAILS ARE SUPPLIED IN THE THE INFORMATION FIELDS. THE NUMBER OF INJURIES IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLES.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. AN OWNER HAS POSTED A VIDEO OF A NEAR MISS THAT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A FATALITY HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=61GKS0IL8I0 HE REPORTED THE EVENT TO THE TESLA MOTORS FORUM. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/VIDEO-HERES-WHY-YOU-HAVE-TO-KEEP-YOUR-EYES-ON-THE-ROAD-WHEN-USING-AUTOPILOT.73767/ THE OWNER WAS USING THE AUTOPILOT IN THE EXACT SAME WAY THAT TESLA PUBLICITY HAS SHOWN HIM - HANDS "NEAR" THE WHEEL. THE DISCUSSION ON THE FORUM SEEKS TO BLAME THE OWNER AND TO ABSOLVE TESLA OF RESPONSIBILITY. A MINORITY OF POSTERS SEE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY "AMPEDREALTOR, WEDNESDAY AT 1:49 AM LAST EDITED: WEDNESDAY AT 2:00 AM ADRIEN SAID: ↑ WOW INTERESTING AND EXACTLY WHY IT'S STILL "BETA." NO NEED TO EMAIL TESLA. ANY CORRECTION YOU DID WILL IMPROVE THE NEURAL NETWORK AUTOMATICALLY. THAT'S HOW IT GET'S BETTER THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T RELEASE SOFTWARE LIKE THIS THAT IS BETA. THIS VEHICLE COULD HAVE CRASHED INTO THE CAR IN THE NEXT LANE AND CAUSED DEATH OR SEVERE INJURY. TESLA CANNOT HIDE BEHIND THE "BETA" MONIKER AND EXPECT THAT IT IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE IN ANY WAY FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF A SYSTEM WHICH, BY ITS VERY NATURE, ENABLES A GREATER DEGREE OF DRIVER DISTRACTION WHILE DOING NOTHING TO MITIGATE THAT DISTRACTION. ALL OF THE ANALYSIS AS TO WHY THIS OR THAT HAPPENED IS RATHER MEANINGLESS, IN MY OPINION. THE SYSTEM JUST DOESN'T WORK IF IT DOES NOT REQUIRE HANDS ON THE WHEEL AND CAN SUDDENLY THROW YOU INTO THE NEXT LANE. IT SO
HERE IS A REPORT OF A CRASH THAT OCCURRED IN GERMANY. HTTP://TESLACLUBSWEDEN.SE/FORUM/VIEWTOPIC.PHP?F=10&T=5024 THE OWNER IS UNCERTAIN OF THE EXACT SEQUENCE OF EVENTS AND IS NOT SURE IF HE WAS ON AUTOPILOT OR NOT. HE CREDITS THE TESLA WITH SAVING HIS LIFE BUT DOES NOT CONCEDE THAT THE CRASH MIGHT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY A VEHICLE FAULT. THE ROLLOVER AND CRASH MAY HAVE BEEN PARTIALLY THE FAULT OF THE TRUCK DRIVER BUT THE REPORTS ARE AMBIGUOUS. BOTH FRONT AND REAR WHEELS HAVE BEEN TORN OFF THE CAR WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN THE RESULT OF THE CRASH BUT BEARING IN MIND THE LARGE NUMBER OF CRASHES IN WHICH TESLA WHEELS HAVE SNAPPED OFF IT MAY BE THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT. TIRES SHOULD NOT PEEL OFF THE RIM EVEN DURING A HIGH SPEED SPIN. WHEELS AND SUSPENSION ASSEMBLIES SHOULD NOT SNAP OFF SO EASILY. I WOULD LIKE NHTSA TO CONTACT THE GERMAN INVESTIGATORS TO ALERT THEM TO THE POSSIBILITY OF AUTOPILOT OR MECHANICAL FAILURE BEING A FACTOR IN THIS CRASH. I AM NOT A TESLA OWNER. I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN THAT HAS TO SHARE THE ROADS WITH TESLA AUTOPILOT CONTROLLED VEHICLES AND I BELIEVE THAT LIVES OF ROAD USERS ARE BEING PUT AT RISK BY THIS UNREGULATED EXPERIMENT.
HERE IS A RECENT YOUTUBE VIDEO SHOWING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A TESLA EMPLOYEE DEMONSTRATING THE USE OF AUTOPILOT AND ENCOURAGING THE DRIVER TO TAKE HIS HANDS OFF THE WHEEL. THIS IS UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=JPTYOYKOTPS
WHILE TEST DRIVING A MODEL S AT A TESLA STORE, SALES REP TOLD ME TO REMOVE MY HANDS FROM THE STEERING WHEEL WHILE ON AUTO PILOT. CAR SUDDENLY SWERVED TO THE RIGHT AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS CAUSING THE CAR TO LEAVE THE REGULAR LANE I WAS TRAVELING IN. THE TESLA REP INSTRUCTED ME THAT I DID NOT HAVE TO KEEP MY HANDS ON THE WHEEL WHICH LEFT ME UNPREPARED FOR THE SUDDEN SWERVE. NAME/ADDRESS ARE LEFT THIS COMPLAINT OFF DUE TO CONCERN ABOUT THE RETALIATORY NATURE OF THE TESLA CEO. TESLA CEO'S OVERLY DEFENSIVEBEHAVIOR HAS A CHILLING AFFECT ON REPORTING ISSUES.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. DESPITE WARNINGS IN THE FINE PRINT THAT THE DRIVER SHOULD BE READY TO TAKE CONTROL AT ANY TIME IT IS CLEAR THAT MANY DRIVERS ARE USING IT IN A DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS MANNER BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT IT IS A COMPLETELY FAIL SAFE TRUE AUTOPILOT SYSTEM. THE HOLD STEERING WHEEL NAG SEEMS TO VARY FROM CAR TO CAR AND CHANGES WITH EACH SOFTWARE UPGRADE. HERE ARE A FEW RECENT YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF DRIVERS USING AUTOPILOT IN A DANGEROUS FASHION. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=PINPXKUWQCQ THIS IS MEANT TO BE AMUSING BUT IT IS PLACING LIVES IN DANGER. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=CQQTE6N_GHM 70 MPH HANDS NOWHERE NEAR THE WHEEL AND NOT READY TO TAKE CONTROL. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=VAAFE7I3YWQ OWNER PLACES FAR TOO MUCH FAITH IN THE AUTOPILOT. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=DYMFIQ2OL8O USING AUTOPILOT ON UNDIVIDED ROAD IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AND WITH MISPLACED CONFIDENCE. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=EG4ZGFVP0J4 ON THE AUTOBAHN, COFFEE IN ONE HAND, BURGER IN THE OTHER HAND AND BUSY MAKING A VIDEO. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=LKKDZJNWTA8 ANOTHER DRIVER HOLDING A COFFEE AND A SANDWICH WHILE TRAVELLING AT 60 MPH. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=4AGXEJ_9G3Y A JOURNALIST WHO OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER DRIVES HANDS FREE INCHES FROM ONCOMING TRAFFIC. I BELIEVE THIS IS A RECKLESS EXPERIMENT THAT IS PLACING LIVES IN DANGER. ELON MUSK CLAIMS HE HAS APPROVAL FOR AUTOPILOT IN MOST COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD. I FIND THAT VERY DIFFICULT TO B
2016 TESLA MODEL S. CONSUMER WRITES IN REGARDS TO VEHICLE SUSPENSION/ FRONT WHEEL CONTROL ARM ISSUES. *SMD THE CONSUMER STATED THE CONTROL ARM BROKE, WHEN HE ATTEMPTED TO BACK OUT OF HIS GARAGE. *JB
THE ?STALLING? PROBLEM HAPPENED TO MY MODEL S SINCE I STARTED TO DRIVE THE NEW CAR IN 03/16. I GOT KICKED FROM ?D?/?R? TO ?P? AT BEGINNING STAGE WHEN I START TO PRESS THE ACCELERATOR, AROUND 50% OF THE TIME WHEN I STARTED OR CHANGED MY SITTING POSITION. THE PROBLEM WOULD STOP AFTER I ADJUST MY SITTING POSITION/POSTURE SEVERAL TIMES. I REPORTED TO TESLA ROADSIDE SERVICE SEVERAL TIMES IN 04/16. THERE WAS NO SOLUTION ON-LINE, I HAVE NEVER GOT ANY FOLLOW UP FROM TESLA AS PROMISED. I TOOK MY CAR TO SALES AGENT [XXX] IN BETHESDA, MD. HE COULD NOT SOLVE MY PROBLEM, SUGGESTED TO GO TO SERVICE SHOP IN ROCKVILLE, MD. THE STALLING PROBLEM BECOMES A HAZARDOUS ISSUE WHEN IT HAPPENED ON THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY IN SLOPPED BUSY INTERSECTIONS. ON 05/13/16, I TOOK MY CAR TO SERVICE SHOP IN ROCKVILLE MD. THE ENGINEERS CHECK OUT SYSTEM & RECORDS. THEY VERIFIED STALLING HAPPENED IN THAT MORNING, & CLAIM THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH CAR/SYSTEM. THE PROBLEM WAS ?NOBODY WAS SITTING ON THE DRIVING SEAT? WHEN STALLING HAPPENED. THEY WANT ME TO KEEP RECORDS. IT WAS STUPID IGNORANCE & IRRESPONSIBILITY. ON 06/11/16, I SENT COMPLAINT TO SERVICEHELPNA [email protected] I GOT RESPONSE THE NEXT DAY, KICK ME BACK TO WHERE I CAME FROM: [XXX], ?. I AM SORRY YOU HAVE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR VEHICLE. THE BEST PERSON TO ADDRESS THIS, GET IT RESOLVED, AND ESCALATE THE ISSUE IF NECESSARY, WOULD BE THE LOCAL SERVICE MANAGER. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO THIS ISSUE ON YOUR BEHALF AND
DOOR HANDLES ARE MADE OF METAL CHROME AND GETS EXCESSIVELY HOT IN THE SUN. YOU ARE UNABLE TO HOLD THE HANDLE AND OPEN IT WITHOUT CAUSING A BURN. (THERE IS A REASON ALL OTHER CAR MANUFACTURERS MAKE THE DOOR HANDLES WITH PLASTIC MATERIAL SO IT DOES NOT GET AS HOT IN THE SUN. ALSO THEY MAKE IT SUCH THAT WHEN HOLDING THE HANDLE, YOU HOLD FROM INSIDE THAT IS PROTECTED FROM THE SUN). TESLA NEEDS TO MAKE THE DOOR HANDLE WITH A MATERIAL THAT DOES NOT GET HOT IN SUN AND DESIGN IT IN A WAY THAT THE HOLDING PORTION PROTECTS IT FROM THE SUN.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 TESLA MODEL S. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE FAILED TO START AND THE LOW 12-VOLT BATTERY WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE BATTERY PACK WAS NOT IN SYNC AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 5,500.
UNINTENDED ACCELERATION OCCURRED ON 2 SEPARATE OCCASIONS WITH 2 DIFFERENT DRIVERS WITHIN 2 WEEKS. MODEL S 70D INCIDENT 1: MY WIFE WAS AT A STOP SIGN. SHE REMOVED HER FOOT FROM THE BRAKE AND BEFORE APPLYING THE ACCELERATOR THE CAR SURGED FORWARD AGGRESSIVELY. SINCE HER FOOT NEVER TOUCHED THE ACCELERATOR SHE WAS ABLE TO APPLY THE BRAKE AND STOP WITHIN 8-10 FEET. SHE WAS VISIBLY SHAKEN WHEN SHE GOT HOME BUT, REGRETTABLY, NO REPORT WAS FILED. INCIDENT 2: ABOUT 2 WEEKS LATER, MAY 6, I WAS PULLING INTO MY GARAGE WITH MY WIFE AND BABY IN THE VEHICLE. 2-3 FEET FROM THE THE GARAGE WALL (IN CREEP MODE) I GENTLY TOUCHED THE BRAKE TO COME TO A STOP. AT THAT POINT THE CAR SURGED FORWARD VERY AGGRESSIVELY. I IMMEDIATELY APPLIED HEAVY BRAKE AND WAS ABLE TO STOP THE CAR IN A FEW FEET (SINCE MY FOOT WAS ALREADY OVER THE BRAKE PEDAL). THE FRONT END HIT THE GARAGE WALL AND PENETRATED 10-12 INCHES CAUSING DRYWALL DAMAGE AND SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO OUR POWDER ROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE. A REPORT WITH TESLA WAS FILED IMMEDIATELY. LOGS WERE DOWLOADED AND SHOW THAT THE ACCELERATOR WAS DEPRESSED TO 97% POWER IN LESS THAN A SECOND AND THAT IT WAS DRIVER ERROR. MY WIFE AND I HAVE A COMBINED 48 YEARS OF ACCIDENT FREE DRIVING AND NEITHER OF US HAVE EVER MISTAKEN CONTROL PEDALS OR HAVE EVER FLOORED A GAS PEDAL IN A SECOND. MY WIFE IS 37, HEALTHY AND A PHYSICIAN, I AM A HEALTHY 42 YEAR OLD PILOT. WE CAN BOTH SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT NEITHER INCIDENT WAS DRIVER ERROR. TESLA HAS A SERIOUS UNINTENDED ACCELERATI
THIS VEHICLE IS FOR SALE AS A SALVAGE WRECK. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=21970334&ROWID=1&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# THE FRONT SUSPENSION HAS COMPLETELY TORN AWAY. THE WHEEL IS IN THE FRUNK OF THE CAR AND APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN SLICED IN HALF. THAT IS INDICATIVE OF THE WHEEL BEING GOUGED FROM THE INSIDE WHILST THE CAR WAS IN MOTION. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT DAMAGE FORWARD OF THE WHEEL THAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR THE SUSPENSION BEING TORN OFF. I HAVE SUBMITTED MANY OTHER COMPLAINTS OF SUSPENSION FAILURES ON TESLAS. THIS IS A 2016 MODEL AND THE SUSPENSION KNUCKLE HAS BEEN REDESIGNED TO A MUCH STURDIER VERSION THAN THE HOLLOW SECTION THAT WAS USED ON EARLIER MODELS AND WHICH PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW HAS FREQUENTLY SNAPPED OFF AT THE TIP OR IN MID SECTION. NONETHELESS THE SUSPENSION HAS FAILED ONCE AGAIN. I HAVE EVIDENCE THAT TESLA ARE OFFERING CUSTOMERS A SETTLEMENT OFFER IN RETURN FOR SIGNING AN NDA. A COPY OF THE NDA FORM IS ATTACHED. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT MADE IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE VIN IS NOT THE ACTUAL VEHICLE INVOLVED. HERE IS A FRESHLY POSTED YOUTUBE VIDEO IN WHICH AN OWNER DRIVES HANDS FREE FOR ALMOST AN HOUR WITHOUT RECEIVING ANY "HOLD STEERING WHEEL" NAGS. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=TQ_OTCNCPH0 HE IS TRAVELLING AT SPEEDS ABOVE THE POSTED LIMIT BOTH ON FREEWAYS AND ON UNDIVIDED ROADS. HE PASSES CLOSE TO PEDESTRIANS AND EVEN A SCHOOL BUS WHILST WAVING HIS HANDS ABOUT AND EVEN CROSSING THEM OVER HIS CHEST. HE IS NOT READY TO TAKE OVER CONTROL OF THE CAR QUICKLY ENOUGH TO ENSURE THAT AN ACCIDENT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THIS SITUATION IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE DRIVER ALONE. THIS FEATURE HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AND PROMOTED AS BEING A TRUE AUTOPILOT. EVEN ELON MUSK AND HIS PARTNER TALUAH HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATING HOW TO DRIVE HANDS FREE ON YOUTUBE. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=PR7BALRS_QC THIS SYSTEM IS STILL IN BETA. IT DOES NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT BUILT IN SAFETY AND REDUNDANCY AND IS LULLING OWNERS INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY. THE MESSAGE THAT OWNERS MUST BE READY TO TAKE IMMEDIATE CONTROL IS BEING WIDELY IGNORED. PLEASE REIN IN THIS DANGEROUS EXPERIMENT BEFORE LIVES ARE LOST. HERE IS A GRANDMOTHER USING THE AUTOPILOT IN AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS MANNER. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=MLF2D9E0GB4
THIS IS A REPORT MADE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUING PROBLEM OF SNAPPING TESLA MODEL S SUSPENSION COMPONENTS. PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT FILING ANY FALSE INFORMATION, THIS IS A GENUINE REPORT MADE TO TRY AND SAVE LIVES. THE VIN BELONGS TO A TESLA WHICH IS IN THE WRECKING YARD BUT IS NOT THE ACTUAL VEHICLE INVOLVED IN THIS MOST RECENT INCIDENT. THERE IS A NEW REPORT FROM CHINA POSTED ON THE TMC FORUM WHICH INCLUDES PHOTOGRAPHS OF BROKEN SUSPENSION PARTS. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/THE-REAR-AXLE-SHAFT-BROKEN-WITHOUT-REASON.67935/ TESLA SUPPORTERS ARE CLAIMING THAT THIS IS A STAGED ACCIDENT FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES. I BELIEVE THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW A FAILURE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH MANY OTHER FAILURES THAT I HAVE ALREADY REPORTED TO YOU. THE PERSON THAT STARTED THE THREAD CLAIMS THAT TESLA ARE INVESTIGATING THE INCIDENT. PLEASE FOLLOW UP ON THIS. TESLA OWNERS AND SUPPORTERS ARE UNWILLING TO ACCEPT THAT THIS CAR IS ANYTHING LESS THAN PERFECT. I BELIEVE THAT PROBLEMS ARE BEING UNDER-REPORTED BECAUSE MOST OWNERS ARE SHAREHOLDERS AND TESLA ENTHUSIASTS THAT REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DANGER POSED BY FRAGILE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS.
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NHTSA publishes every complaint as the owner wrote it and investigates only a fraction. Spelling, capitalisation and judgement are the filer’s own. What carries weight is repetition: the same component failing the same way across many filings, and whether the manufacturer eventually opened a recall for it.
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