2017 Ram 2500 complaints

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE STEERING WHEEL SEIZED WITHOUT WARNING AS THE VEHICLE SWERVED TO THE RIGHT. THE CONTACT MANAGED TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE STEERING WHEEL, VEER TO THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD, SHUT OFF AND RESTART THE VEHICLE BUT THE FAILURE PERSISTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO CARSON DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP RAM (3059 S CARSON ST, CARSON CITY, NV 89701) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE DRIVE LINK WAS WELDED AND THE TECHNICIAN CAN NOT ADJUST THE STEERING WHEEL TO THE CONTACTS DESIRE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE VEHICLE WAS SEEN AT THE SAME DEALER 2 ADDITIONAL TIMES. THE CONTACT MENTIONED NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V021000 (STEERING) AS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THE FAILURE HOWEVER, THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THE RECALL WAS ALREADY COMPLETED AND TO TAKE THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 71,000.

WHILE DRIVING MY VEHICLE AT APPROXIMATELY 35 MILES PER HOUR A VEHICLE TURN IN FRONT OF MY VEHICLE AND I DEPRESSED THE BRAKES. THE VEHICLE SHUTDOWN AND WAS ABANDONED IN THE ROADWAY DUE TO LOSS OF POWER. VEHICLES BEHIND ME CONDUCTED EVASIVE MANEUVERS NARROWLY MISSING MY VEHICLE DUE TO THE DEFECTIVE PRODUCT. I WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THE VEHICLE WAS EQUIPPED WITH A FAULTY FUEL PUMP AND IT HAD BROKEN INTO SEVERAL PIECES INSIDE THE FUEL TANK. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED WITH CHRYSLER; HOWEVER, THEY DO NOT SEE IT AS A SAFETY ISSUE. CLEARLY LOSS OF POWER WHILE OPERATING A VEHICLE ON A BUSY ROADWAY IS A DEFINITE SAFETY ISSUE. THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED BEFORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED OR INJURED. I LOST POWER IN BRAKES AND STEERING.

THE HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT WHICH OPERATES THE BRAKING SYSTEM ,SPEED CONTROL, CRUISE CONTROL.

BRAKE PEDAL GOES TO THE FLOOR ONLY WHILE AT SLOW SPEEDS AND STOPPED. RAM STATED ITS NORMAL FOR TRUCK TO HAVE SOFT BRAKES WHEN STOPPED OR SLOWER DRIVING. WITH THE SOFT PEDAL SINKING TO THE IT SEEMS TO BE A SAFETY FACTOR AS IT DON'T HAVE FULL BRAKING PRESSURE TO HOLD THE VEHICLE STILL WHILE ON AN INCLINE. ODDLY IF YOU PUT THE VEHICLE IN NEUTRAL THE BRAKES BEGIN WORKING AGAIN. MANY FORUMS ONLINE HAVE REPORTED THIS ISSUE BUT IT SEEMS MOPAR ISN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BRAKES.

DRIVING 2017 DODGE RAM 2500 4X4 ON PAVED RURAL ROADWAY TRAVELING 50MPH WHEN STEERING WHEEL LOST TENSION AND WOULD NOT STEER APPROPRIATELY. VEHICLE BEGAN TO LOSE TRACTION AND CORRECTION WAS NOT POSSIBLE. WHILE WHEN DRIVER ATTEMPTED TO BRAKE, BRAKE PEDAL WAS PRESSED FIRMLY AND DID NOT BRAKE. VEHICLE MAINTAINED SPEED DUE TO BRAKE FAILURE AND STEERING, VEHICLE WENT INTO SIDE SKID FOR 100 YARDS BEFORE HITTING DEEP DITCH AND ROLLING VERTICALLY INTO DITCH LANDING ON WHEELS. ACCIDENT RESULTED IN INJURIES TO BOTH DRIVER AND PASSENGER.

SERVICE ANTILOCK BRAKE SYSTEM AND TRACTION CONTROL ERROR WHILE DRIVING. FIRST STARTED SHORTLY AFTER REPAIR FOR STEERING RECALL (REQUIRED WELDING) IN DECEMBER 2019, VEHICLE MILES ~23,500. THIS WOULD OCCUR WITHOUT WARNING, IRRELEVANT TO ROAD, WEATHER CONDITIONS. THE ISSUE PERSISTED, COMES AND GOES, PROGRESSIVELY GETTING WORSE OVER TIME. TOOK IN TO DEALER FOR SERVICE. DEALER INDICATED THAT THE HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT IS DEFECTIVE AND NEEDS REPLACING, WORK ORDER STATES DIRECT GROUND FAULT. PART ON ORDER. I BELIEVE THE CAUSE IS WHEN THEY WELDED THE JAMB NUT FOR THE ACTIVE RECALL, BY GROUNDING THE NEGATIVE LEAD TO THE CHASSIS WITHOUT DISCONNECTING THE BATTERIES BEFORE ARC WELDING. BASED ON PREVIOUS COMPLAINTS POSTED ON THIS SITE AND OTHERS, THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS STARTS OCCURRING SHORTLY AFTER THE RECALL IS COMPLETED.

SUDDEN LOSS OF POWER, WAS PULLING OUT INTO TRAFFIC ON STATE HIGHWAY AND TRUCK WOULD NOT ACCELERATE PASS 20 MPH. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON, AFTER PULLING OVER AND STOPPING AND RESTARTING, TRUCK WAS ABLE TO OPERATE NORMALLY EXCEPT FOR LOSS OF THE EXHAUST BRAKE. TOOK TO DEALER AND DEALER STATED IT WAS THE TURBO ACTUATOR AND STATED IT WAS A COMMON PROBLEM. SHOULD BE A TSB OR RECALL IN MY OPINION. TRUCK HAS 82000 MILES.

I PUT MY VAN IN DRIVE AN THEN IT STARTED AND IT STARTED BUCKING AND THEN THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE HER HUSBAND WAS DRIVING AT ABOUT 75 MPH, ON CRUISE CONTROL AND ACCELERATED TO OVERTAKE ANOTHER VEHICLE, THE THROTTLE STUCK WITHOUT WARNING. HE MANAGED TO PULL THE VEHICLE TO THE SIDE AND PUTTING IT IN NEUTRAL, AND WAS ABLE TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT TOO MUCH PRESSURE WAS PUT ON THE BRAKES AND CAUSED THE FRONT AND REAR BRAKES TO BURN AMID HEAVY SMOKE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE LARRY H. MILLER JEEP DEALER (8525 LOMAS BLVD NE, ALBUQUERQUE, NM 87110) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT OIL WAS OVERFILLED AND GOT INTO THE CRANKCASE. THE TECHNICIAN CLEANED THE CRANKCASE, INSTALLED NEW ROTORS AND BRAKE PADS. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE RECALL, NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 18V332000 (ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL) BY AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED EXCEPT THE CRUSE CONTROL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 48,630.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V818000 (EQUIPMENT, ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING) HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE RECALL REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. AUTONATION USA PHOENIX (2625 W BELL RD, PHOENIX, AZ 85023, (623) 432-1720) WAS CONTACTED AND IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PART WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBERS: 19V818000 (EQUIPMENT, ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING) AND 20V036000 (POWER TRAIN) HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE RECALL REPAIRS WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT CALLED HILL-KELLY DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP RAM (6171 PENSACOLA BLVD, PENSACOLA, FL 32505, (850) 972-2050) WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V818000 (EQUIPMENT, ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING) APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS AGO, THE CONTACT CALLED HENDRICKS CHRYSLER JEEP RAM FIAT OF CONCORD DEALER (7630 HENDRICKS AUTO PLAZA, CONCORD, NC 28027) WHO CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHEN ENGINE WAS IDLING IT WOULD VIBRATE. THE CONTACT THEN STATED THAT RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING A BURNING ODOR WAS DETECTED, HE TURNED OF THE VEHICLE, OPENED THE HOOD AND SAW SMOKE IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE COOLING FAN FAILS TO OPERATE. THE DEALER WAS CALLED SEVERAL TIMES AND INFORMED THAT THE RECALL REMEDY PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT HE DID NOT CALL THE DEALER TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE LATEST FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 385,000. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE (19V818000).

WHEN DRIVING THE VEHICLE, THE ABS AND TRACTION CONTROL LIGHTS SIMULTANEOUSLY ACTIVATE, BELLS START RINGING AND A NOTIFICATION IN THE DISPLAY SCREEN. THE ISSUE STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2019 WHEN STILL IN WARRANTY. THE DEALER COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM AND CLAIMED NO CODES. STARTING IN DECEMBER 2019 THE ISSUE STARTED MORE REGULAR, THE DEALER COULD NOT GET US IN AT THAT TIME. THEN THE ISSUE QUIT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. IT HAS NOW GOTTEN TO BE A REGULAR ISSUE AND STAYS ACTIVE MORE THEN NOT. OCCURS MOSTLY DRIVING IN JUST ABOUT ANY CONDITION AND SPEED, HAS OCCURRED A FEW TIMES WHEN THE VEHICLE IS STATIONARY. THE LOCAL DEALER TELLS US IT IS REGULAR OCCURRENCE ON THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE. PARTS ARE ACTUALLY A DEALER LIMITED ITEM AND NOT IN STOCK. IT HAS NOW GOTTEN TO WHERE MY WIFE DOES NOT WANT TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE. WE ARE WORKING WITH FCA TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE. THE DEALER TELLS IT NEED THE ABS PUMP (HCU) AND CONTROLLER. $880 FOR WHAT APPEARS TO BE DEFECTIVE SAFETY PART. VEHICLE WAS AT THE DEALER 3/30/2020 CURRENT MILEAGE: 46579 NOTE: WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHERS IN THIS AREA WITH THE SAME TYPE OF FAILURE AND INTERNET SEARCHES REVEAL DOZENS. WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THE TRUCK AND JUST HOPE FCA/RAM DOES DUE DILIGENCE AND TAKES CARE OF THE PROBLEM.

THE ISSUE IS THE FCA MANDATED DRAG LINK RECALL IN EFFECT FOR MY TRUCK. THE FCA RECALL "FIX" WHICH THEY SAY WAS APPROVED BY YOU, INVOLVES WELDING THE JAMB NUTS TO THE ADJUSTMENT COLLAR ON THE DRAG LINK, WHICH LOCKS THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY TOGETHER. THE PROBLEM IS THIS FIX ELIMINATES THE ABILITY TO SET THE STEER AHEAD ADJUSTMENT FOR FUTURE WHEEL ALIGNMENTS AND HOW MANY TIMES CAN THE PARTS BE CUT AND WELDED FOR FUTURE WHEEL ALIGNMENTS BEFORE THE DRAG LINK IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE USED? WE PURCHASED OUR TRUCKS WITH AN ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK AND THE RECALL THAT FCA STATES YOUR ORGANIZATION APPROVED, ALTERS OUR TRUCKS FROM THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN AND FORM. THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, FCA INSTALLED A DEFECTIVE DRAG LINK ON OUR TRUCKS AND THE ONLY APPROPRIATE REPAIR IS TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE DRAG LINK WITH THE FCA REVISED, ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK, NOT WELDING STEERING COMPONENTS, WHICH IS NOT APPROVED IN GENERAL TERMS BY THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. I HAVE GONE TO FCA AND MY LOCAL DEALER AND BOTH HAVE REFUSED THIS IS ON FCA TO CORRECT. I'M ASKING THE NHTSA TO REQUIRE FCA TO REPLACE MY DEFECTIVE DRAG LINK WITH THE REVISED FCA DRAG LINK AVAILABLE. ALSO I SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED AND HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA $250 OUT OF POCKET THAT MY DEALER IS TRYING TO CHARGE ME AS LABOR COST TO UNWELD AND RE WELD THE NUT BACK ON TO DO AN ALIGNMENT WHEN IT'S THE RECALL THAT CAUSED THIS ISSUE AND IS STOPPING ME FROM ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON MY TRUCK ALSO I DON'T FEEL SAFE WITH THE NUT BEING CUT AND REWELDED AS A SOLUTION OR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V818000 (EQUIPMENT, ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING) AND NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 20V036000 (POWER TRAIN) HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE RECALL REPAIR WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER HAD EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT WHITTEN BROTHERS CHRYSLER JEEP DODGE RAM OF MIDLOTHIAN LOCATED AT (10701 MIDLOTHIAN TURNPIKE, RICHMOND, VA 23235 (804-352-2615) EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.

THE THROTTLE IS NOT RESPONDING. IT IS ACCELERATING ON ITS OWN. DURING REGULAR DRIVING THE VEHICLE ACCELERATES ON ITS OWN. THIS HAPPENS AT ALL SPEEDS. AND CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE DURING BRAKING. IN ADDITION THERE ARE 2 POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING RECALLS ON THIS VEHICLE THAT HAVE NO REMEDIES.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT PARTICULATE AND NOX SENSOR FAILED IN THE VEHICLE. THE CHECK ENGINE WARNING LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO LOUISVILLE CHRYSLER DODGE JEEP RAM DEALER, (5311 DIXIE HWY, LOUISVILLE, KY 40216) AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE PARTICULATE AND NOX SENSOR WERE NO LONGER BEING MANUFACTURED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 34,000.

ON AT 3 SEPARATE OCCASIONS, I HAVE HAD THE ACCELERATOR GET STUCK ON WHAT I BELIEVE IS FULL THROTTLE. INITIALLY I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE MY FLOOR MAT, HOWEVER IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN A PARKING LOT. SO THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THE PEDDLE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE FLOOR MAT. I WAS ACCELERATING, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT TO FULL THROTTLE

I SENT YOUR ORGANIZATION AN EMAIL REGARDING THIS ISSUE, REQUEST 259479 AND RECEIVED A REPLY . THE ISSUE IS THE FCA MANDATED DRAG LINK RECALL IN EFFECT FOR MY TRUCK. THE FCA RECALL "FIX" WHICH THEY SAY WAS APPROVED BY YOU, INVOLVES WELDING THE JAMB NUTS TO THE ADJUSTMENT COLLAR ON THE DRAG LINK, WHICH LOCKS THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY TOGETHER. THE PROBLEM IS THIS FIX ELIMINATES THE ABILITY TO SET THE STEER AHEAD ADJUSTMENT FOR FUTURE WHEEL ALIGNMENTS AND HOW MANY TIMES CAN THE PARTS BE CUT AND WELDED FOR FUTURE WHEEL ALIGNMENTS BEFORE THE DRAG LINK IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE USED? WE PURCHASED OUR TRUCKS WITH AN ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK AND THE RECALL THAT FCA STATES YOUR ORGANIZATION APPROVED, ALTERS OUR TRUCKS FROM THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN AND FORM. THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, FCA INSTALLED A DEFECTIVE DRAG LINK ON OUR TRUCKS AND THE ONLY APPROPRIATE REPAIR IS TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE DRAG LINK WITH THE FCA REVISED, ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK, NOT WELDING STEERING COMPONENTS, WHICH IS NOT APPROVED IN GENERAL TERMS BY THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. I HAVE GONE TO FCA AND MY LOCAL DEALER AND BOTH HAVE REFUSED TO REPLACE MY DRAG LINK WITH THE REVISED DRAG LINK. I WILL NOT ALLOW THE CURRENT RECALL/FIX TO BE PERFORMED AS AGAIN, IT ALTERS MY TRUCK FROM IT'S ORIGINAL DESIGN AND FORM, NOR WILL I PAY OUT OF POCKET FOR AN AFTERMARKET ADJUSTABLE DRAG LINK, SUCH AS THE ONE AVAILABLE FROM SYNERGY. THIS IS ON FCA TO CORRECT. WHOMEVER AT FCA PROPOSED WELDING THE DRAG LINK ADJUSTMENT COLLAR TO THE LOCK NUTS AND WHOMEVER

I HAVE HAD A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WITH CODE P0868 FOR LOW TRANSMISSION FLUID PRESSURE 3 TIMES WHILE PULLING A TRAVEL TRAILER AND ONCE JUST DRIVING WITHOUT PULLING ANYTHING IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS. DEALER HAS TOLD ME THEY DONT KNOW WHY THE LIGHT KEEPS GOING OFF.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS THE ABS, TRACTION AND SERVICE ELECTRONIC BRAKES WARNING INDICATOR LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN WALKER CHRYSLER DODGE JEEP RAM (3739, 5757 COLISEUM BLVD, ALEXANDRIA, LA 71303 (318) 242-1628) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ABS CONTROL PUMP AND MODULE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND INFORMED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 43,000.

THE RECALL ON THE DRAG LINK BY WELDING THE NUTS ON THE ADJUSTMENT BAR IS POOR REPAIR PROCEDURE. CAN'T FIND AN ALIGNMENT SHOP TO UNDO THE WELDS AND CENTER STEERING WHEEL. TOLD THEY WON'T ACCEPT THE LIABILITY

MY VEHICLE WAS INCLUDED IN SAFETY RECALL V06/NHTSA 19V-021 AND I BELIEVE THE FIX FOR THIS RECALL WAS NOT A SUFFICIENT LONG TERM SOLUTION. THE FIX FOR THIS RECALL WAS WELDING THE NUTS ON THE DRAG LINK. FOR A TEMPORARY FIX THIS IS SUFFICIENT, HOWEVER, FOR A LONG TERM SOLUTION THE PART SHOULD BE REPLACED. WELDING THE NUTS REDUCES THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE NOT RAM/DODGE DEALERS AS COMPANIES DO NOT WANT THE LIABILITY OF CUTTING THE WELDS AND REWARDING THE NUTS IN ORDER TO PERFORM AN ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS NEEDED FOR VEHICLE SAFETY. ADDITIONALLY, GRINDING AND WELDING THE DRAG LINK REMOVES STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OVER TIME DUE TO METAL BEING LOST AND NEW METAL NOT SITTING FLUSH AS IT SHOULD. THE INABILITY TO UTILIZE NON RAM DEALERS FOR FUTURE REPAIRS DUE TO THE LIABILITY ISSUES WITH GRINDING WELDS AND RE-WELDING COUPLED WITH PREMATURE WEAR AND NON OEM FITMENT WITH FUTURE WELDING/GRINDING MAKE ME BELIEVE RAM MUST REPLACE THE DRAG LINK FOR A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

THE TRUCK WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY. THE ENGINE STARTED TO MISFIRE. SHUT OFF AND IT WOULD NOT START BACK UP. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WAS FLASHING. HAD TO HAVE IT TOWED TO A REPAIR SHOP.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT HAD THE VEHICLE REPAIRED PER NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V021000 (STEERING), WHICH REQUIRED A NUT ON THE ADJUSTER SLEEVE. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO HAVE THE WHEELS ALIGNED BY SEVERAL CERTIFIED MECHANICS, THE CONTACT WAS DENIED DUE TO THE WELDING OF THE NUT. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDED ALL NEW BALL JOINTS, WHICH WOULD NOT BE COVERED UNDER THE RECALL OR WARRANTY. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN.

I RECEIVED A SAFETY RECALL NOTICE VIA MAIL. DRAG LINK V06/NHTSA 19V-021. RESPONDED TO DEALER FOR INFORMATION REGARDING REPAIRS. WAS INFORMED THAT THE FIX FOR THIS RECALL IS WELDING THE LOCK NUTS TO THE ADJUSTER SLEEVE. THIS IS NO FIX. THIS IS A FARCE, THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE ALIGNMENT IN THE FUTURE. THERE SHOULD BE PARTS REPLACED. NOT WELDED TOGETHER. I DO NOT ACCEPT THE FIX FOR THIS ISSUE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. AFTER THE VEHICLE WAS SHIFTED INTO FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, THERE WAS AN ABNORMAL WHINING AND GRINDING SOUND COMING FROM THE FRONT DIFFERENTIAL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO LITHIA CHRYSLER JEEP DODGE OF BILLINGS (2229 KING AVE W, BILLINGS, MT 59102, (406) 206-3601) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THERE WAS WATER IN THE FRONT DIFFERENTIAL, WHICH CAUSED INSUFFICIENT LUBRICATION OF THE GEARS. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 40,000. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

UNKNOWING LING HAD FCA DEALERSHIP PERFORM RECALL 19V-021, DRAG LINK ASSEMBLY. BY THE DEALERSHIP CONDUCTING THIS IT NOW MAKES MY VEHICLE ILLEGAL FOR TOWING PER THE FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY REGULATION SS 393.209 (D) STEERING SYSTEM. UNIVERSAL JOINTS AND BALL-AND-SOCKET JOINTS SHALL NOT BE WORN, FAULTY OR REPAIRED BY WELDING. THE STEERING GEAR BOX SHALL NOT HAVE LOOSE OR MISSING MOUNTING BOLTS OR CRACKS IN THE GEAR BOX OR MOUNTING BRACKETS. THE PITMAN ARM ON THE STEERING GEAR OUTPUT SHAFT SHALL NOT BE LOOSE. STEERING WHEELS SHALL TURN FREELY THROUGH THE LIMIT OF TRAVEL IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. I HAVE CONTACTED THE FCA DEALERSHIP AND THEY WILL NOT REPLACE THE PART THAT THEY HAVE WELDED THEREFORE MAKING MY VEHICLE ILLEGAL IF INSPECTED.

RECALL BY MANUFACTURER WELDED STEERING COMPONENTS SO ALIGNMENT CANNOT BE COMPLETED WHEN REQUIRED. NHTSA 11268689

TRUCK STARTS AND DIES , TRUCK WILL NOT START IF IT SITS FOR LONG PERIOD OF TIME , NO DASH LIGHTS WHEN THIS HAPPENS , TAKES ABOUT 40 MINS TO GET THE KEY TO RECOGNIZE/GET STARTED . WHEN TAKEN TO THE DEALER SHIP A TEST WAS RAN AND SAID ALL THINGS I DESCRIBE (WRONG KEY PHOBE, LOSS COMMUNICATION WITH IGINTATION )

FOR THE PAST MONTH, I HAVE HAD INTERMITTENT DISPLAYS OF "SERVICE ELECTRONIC BRAKING SYSTEM" AND "SERVICE ANTILOCK BRAKE SYSTEM". WHEN THIS OCCURS, THE CRUISE CONTROL BECOMES NONOPERATIONAL. A CHECK OF THE INTERNET SHOWS THAT THESE PROBLEMS ARE WIDELY EXPERIENCED BY DODGE RAM OWNERS. THE DISPLAY COMES ON WHETHER SITTING OR DRIVING.

RECALL - WAS ADVISED WHEEL ALIGNMENT WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO BE DONE DUE TO WELDING ADJUSTING SLEEVES.

RAM WELDED THE DRAG-LINK ASSEMBLY PER A RECALL ON MY 2500. I CANNOT GET ANYONE INCLUDING THE DEALER TO ALIGN MY TRUCK AFTER PUTTING NEW TIRES ON IT. THE FACTORY TIRES WORE UNEVENLY PRIOR TO 30,000 MILES. CHRYSLER SAYS THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR A REPLACEMENT DRAG LINK ASSEMBLY THAT IS NOT WELDED BE SHIPPED TO THE DEALER. THEY ARE REFUSING. I AM IN AWE OF THEIR INABILITY TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE THEY DIRECTLY CREATED. I AM PLANNING ON SUING AS A LAST RESORT.

NHTSA RECALL19V-021, BY WELDING NUTS ON TO THE STEERING STABILIZER, THIS MAKES THE ISSUE PERMANENT, NO ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUTURE UNLESS REPLACEMENT. THIS IS AN UNACCEPTABLE RECALL FOR THE CONSUMER. FCA NEEDS TO CORRECTS BY INSTALLING AN ADJUSTABLE STEERING STABILIZER

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500 DIESEL. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ABS INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO AN UNKNOWN DEALER BEFORE THE 36,000 MILE WARRANTY EXPIRED IN APPROXIMATELY JUNE OF 2019. THE DEALER INSPECTED THE VEHICLE, RESET THE TRACTION CONTROL INDICATOR, CHANGED THE FLUIDS, AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO RISER CHRYSLER, DODGE, JEEP, RAM, AND FIAT (4722 CENTRAL AVE, HOT SPRINGS, AR 71913, (501) 500-5285) ON SEPTEMBER 21, 2019 WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE ABS HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THERE WAS A NATIONAL BACKORDER FOR THE PART AND IT WAS A MAJOR ISSUE FOR THOSE VEHICLES. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN REPAIRED AND WAS STILL BEING DRIVEN BY THE CONTACT. THE CONTACT LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE WITH THE MANUFACTURER AND HAD NOT BEEN CALLED BACK. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 39,100.

I BOUGHT THE TRUCK NEW IN OCT. 2017. ALMOST RIGHT AWAY I FELT A PULL TO EITHER DIRECTION WHEN DRIVING BUT IT PULLED STRONGER TO THE RIGHT. I BROUGHT IT BACK TO BROWNS DODGE IN MEDFORD N.Y. AND COMPLAINED AND THEY "SENT IT OUT" FOR A WHEEL ALIGNMENT. I WENT BACK BECAUSE IT WAS STILL PULLING. AFTER A SECOND LOOK BY THE DEALER I WAS TOLD IT WAS DOING WHAT IT SHOULD. IT WASN'T. I THEN TOOK IT TO AN INDEPENDENT PLACE THAT SPECIALIZES IN WHEEL ALIGNMENTS. THEY SAID THEY FIXED IT TOO. THEY DIDN'T. I WAS READY TO GET RID OF THE TRUCK UNTIL I GOT THE RECALL NOTICE. I TOOK IT BACK TO BROWNS AND THEY WELDED THE DRAG LINK AND SAID THERE ARE NO PARTS AVAILABLE AND I WOULD GET A CALL WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE. I NEVER RECEIVED A CALL AND I CALLED AND THEY CLAIM THEY STILL DO NOT HAVE THE PART. I NEED MY TRUCK TO DRIVE CORRECTLY. THE DRAG LINK SHOULD NOT BE WELDED. REPLACEMENT IS NEEDED. IT STILL PULLS. I TOW TRAILERS. AFTER THE DRAG LINK WAS WELDED THE "MECHANIC" WROTE ON THE SERVICE FORM HE TEST DROVE IT TO CHECK FOR "TOW". THAT IS A LIE. THE TRUCK NEVER LEFT THE BAY UNTIL IT WAS DONE. I WAS THERE. THE ODO IN AND OUT IS THE SAME TOO. I WAS GETTING HELP FROM FCA BUT NOW THEY WONT HELP EITHER. THEY SAID SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE HANDLING IT AND CONTACTING ME AND NOBODY EVER HAS. THE CASE NUMBER IS 58281442. THANK YOU.

INTERMITTENT MIL FOR ABS AND ELECTRONIC BRAKING SYSTEM, BECAME MORE FREQUENT OVER 1-2 WEEKS WHILE WAITING FOR APPOINTMENT AT DEALERSHIP (OUT OF TOWN). DAY OF THE APPOINTMENT, MIL CAME ON AND STAYED ON. DEALER READ CODES AND STATED 'INTERNAL CODES FOUND, REPLACE PUMP AND MODULE' THEN INFORMED ME PARTS WERE ON 'NATIONAL BACKORDER' VEHICLE HAS 46,500 MILES AT TIME OF FAILURE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. WHILE DRIVING 40 MPH, THE VEHICLE VIBRATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO JOHNSON DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP RAM (481 US-46, BUDD LAKE, NJ 07828, (908) 850-8700) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDED NEW TIRES. THE CONTACT ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE VEHICLE INTERMITTENTLY DID NOT IDLE AND THE RPMS RACED UP AND DOWN. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VIBRATION WAS BECOMING WORSE. THE CONTACT PURCHASED NEW TIRES, BUT THE VIBRATION FAILURE RECURRED. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO A TIRE SHOP AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE FRONT DRIVER'S SIDE WHEEL WAS WOBBLING AND ALL FOUR RIMS WERE BENT AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT SOME OF THE TIRES WERE REBALANCED, BUT NOT THE FRONT DRIVER'S SIDE TIRE DUE TO THE DAMAGE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE CONTACT CALLED THE DEALER AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT UNDER WARRANTY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURES AND PROVIDED A CASE NUMBER. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 23,000.

2017 RAM 2500 DIESEL WITH FIRESTONE TRANSFORCE AT TIRES. TIRES HAVE APPROXIMATELY 27000 MILES ON THEM AND NEED TO BE REPLACED. OVERALL I AM VERY PLEASED WITH TRUCK BUT VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT RAM PUTS TIRES ON A 54000 DOLLAR TRUCK THAT ONLY LASTS 27000 MILES. TIRES ARE BIG EXPENSE (1000 DOLLARS). I'M SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY OWNER WITH THIS ISSUE. PLEASE RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. WHEN ATTEMPTING TO SHIFT INTO PARK, THE TRANSMISSION BECAME STUCK IN ANOTHER GEAR AND THE VEHICLE ROLLED BACKWARDS. IN ADDITION, THE KEY BECAME STUCK IN THE IGNITION WHEN THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO TURN OFF THE VEHICLE. DICK HANNAH RAM TRUCK CENTER (7110 NE FOURTH PLAIN BLVD, VANCOUVER, WA 98661, (360) 342-9371) WAS CALLED, BUT WOULD NOT GIVE ANY INFORMATION OVER THE PHONE. THE DEALER REQUIRED THE CONTACT TO TOW IN THE VEHICLE AT HIS EXPENSE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 38,500.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THERE WAS AN UNKNOWN RECALL REPAIR THAT REQUIRED WELDING THE ALIGNMENT BARS AND NUTS. THE DEALER WHO PERFORMED THE REPAIR WAS GOLDSTEIN CHRYSLER JEEP DODGE RAM (968 NEW LOUDON RD, LATHAM, NY 12110, (518) 785-4156). WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS RECEIVING AN ALIGNMENT FROM AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC, THE WELDING REPAIR WAS DISCOVERED. THE CONTACT CALLED THE DEALER BACK AND WAS INFORMED THAT THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER RECALL FOR THE FULL REPAIR. THE CONTACT WAS REFERRED TO THE MANUFACTURER. THE MANUFACTURER STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT APPROVE ANY MORE REPAIRS AND TRANSFERRED THE CONTACT TO NHTSA. THE CONTACT WAS CONCERNED THAT IF ANOTHER ALIGNMENT WAS NEEDED, IT WOULD BE HAMPERED BY THE PARTS BEING WELDED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 15,000.

HAD THE RAM 3500 RECAL CORRECTED WITH A SPOT WELD AT THE DON FRANKLIN SOMERSET KENTUCKY DEALER. IT MAY BE APPROVED NHTSA BUT ACCORDING TO DOT OFFICERS IT IS AN ILLEGAL FIX. STATED THAT IT ISNT APPROVEC BY THE FMCSA. IF I AM SHUT DOWN DUE TO TNIS SPOT WELD, I WILL LOOSE REVENUE IN THE THOUSANDS. IF THERE IS A PERMENENT FIX IT NEEDS TO BE DONE ASAP.

JUNE 26TH 2019 MY TRUCK FELT LIKE IT SHIFTED INTO 4WD ON ITS OWN, LATER THAT DAY I LOST ABS, TRACTION CONTROL AND CRUISE CONTROL. IT WENT TO THE DEALERSHIP WHERE IT TOOK 3 DAYS TO DIAGNOSE. WAS INFORMED THAT ABS PUMP AND ABS CONTROL MODULE NEED TO BE REPLACED AND THE PART IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. FURTHER RESEARCH OF INTERNET FORUMS SHOWS THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM AND DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ADDRESSED PROPERLY. I AM STILL WAITING FOR MY TRUCK TO BE REPAIRED AND THERE IS A WARRANTY ON IT. DEALERSHIP ALLOWED ME TO PICKUP THE TRUCK WITHOUT THE REPAIR AND DID NOT PROVIDE RECEIPTS OR WORK ORDERS BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE ANY OTHER TRANSPORTATION. IN HEAVY RAIN THE TRUCK HAS BECOME QUITE DANGEROUS TO DRIVE.

I TOOK MY 2017 RAM 2500 INTO THE LOCAL DEALER, URSE DODGE, FOR A DRAGLINK RECALL. RAM'S REPAIR FOR DRAGLINK RECALL WAS TO WELD JAM NUTS. THE WELDING OF THE JAM NUTS COMPLETELY DISABLED THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE LINK FOR PURPOSES OF PROPER ALIGNMENT TO THE TRUCK. I HAVE TALKED TO RAM CUSTOMER CARE AND THE LOCAL DEALER URSE DODGE, BOTH URSE AND RAM CUSTOMER SERVICE CLAIM THAT WELDING THE IS THE RECALL REPAIR AS OF NOW. NOWHERE CAN I FIND ANY STATEMENTS OF A FINAL AND PERMANENT REPAIR COMING. I NOTICED TIRE WEAR ON MY TIRES AND TOOK THE TRUCK FOR AN ALIGNMENT TO NTB IN BRIDGEPORT WV. (I HAVE HAD MY TRUCK ALIGNED THERE ABOUT EVERY 5000 MILES FOR THE LAST YEAR, OR APPROXIMATELY 6 TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR. TRUCK CURRENTLY HAS 67,000 MILES ON IT.) ON THIS OCCASION MY TRUCK WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT BUT NTB COULD NOT ADJUST IT BECAUSE URSE DODGE HAD WELDED THE JAM NUTS. I CALLED URSE, AND THEY MADE ME AN APPOINTMENT TO CHECK MY ALIGNMENT. ON MONDAY 7-1-2019 THE MECHANIC AT URSE DODGE CUT THE WELDS FROM THE JAM NUTS USING A DIE GRINDER, CUTTING TOOL, ALIGNED MY TRUCK, AND THEN TIGHTENED THE NUTS WITHOUT RE-WELDING THEM. THIS IN EFFECT "UN-REPAIRED" MY RECALL. MY CONCERN IS, 1. THE ORIGINAL WELDING AND THE HEAT AND OTHER REACTIONS TO THE JAM NUTS HAVE WEAKENED AND STRESSED THE METAL IN BOTH THE JAM NUTS AND THE ADJUSTING SLEEVE THE NUTS WERE WELDED TO. 2. THE CUTTING AND REMOVING THE WELD, WITH THE HEAT AND THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE INVOLVED IN REMOVING THE WELD, HAS FURTHER WEAKENED AND STRESSED TH

THE RECALL FOR FIXING THE DRAG LINK SEPARATION IS NOT SAFE. YOU DO NOT WELD STEERING COMPONENTS BECAUSE YOU CHANGE THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE OF THE STEEL MAKING IT HARDER. INSTEAD OF BENDING, IT WILL SNAP. ALSO YOU CANNOT ADJUST TOE IN AND TOE OUT ANY LONGER. THIS IS CREATING A DANGEROUS AND AT BEST A POOR BAND AID FIX THAT IS MAKING A NEW POTENTIAL PROBLEM. CHRYSLER REFUSES TO REPLACE THE PART. NOW, EVERYTIME YOU MEED ALIGNMENTS, THE WELDS NEED KNOCKED OF AMD REWELDED, THUS ALTERING THE COMPONENT ONCE AGAIN. THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 RAM 2500. WHILE DRIVING AT ANY SPEED, ATTEMPTING TO PARK THE VEHICLE, OR BACKING OUT OF A PARKED POSITION, THE STEERING LOST POWER. THERE WAS NO WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO DALLAS DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP RAM (214-327-9361, LOCATED AT 11550 LYNDON B JOHNSON FWY, DALLAS, TX 75238) WHERE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO RECALL. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS NOT PROVIDED.

I TOOK MY VEHICLE IN FOR SAFETY RECALL LATE MARCH OR EARLY APRIL. MY CA VEHICKE REGUSTEATION IS DYE 5/31/19. I TRIED TO RENEW ONLINE, BUT TOKD I CANNOT BECAUSE OF A VEHICLE SAFETY RECALL. I CHECKED ONLINE AND THERE IS ONE. IT IS 430 PM, AND THEY XANNOT WORK ON THE TRUCK UNTIL 5/31/19, I HAVE A JOB INTERVIEW AT 1130 AM PST, AND A VETERANS ADMINISTRATION APPT AT 1230 FOR PTSD, BUT IF I DONT GET THE TRUCK FIXED I WILL BE FINED FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION IN CA. SO, MY CHOICES ARE, SKIP MY NECASSARY PTSD APPT WHEN I AM HAVING CHALLENGES, MISS MY INTERVIEW WHEN I AM UNEMPLOYED, OR GET HUGE FINES FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION AN CAR INSURANCE CANCELLED. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2017 RAM 2500. WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH AROUND A CORNER AND DOWN A MOUNTAIN, THE WHEELS OF THE VEHICLE STRUCK A ROCK AND THE VEHICLE CRASHED INTO A DITCH. THE AIR BAGS DEPLOYED. THE CONTACT SUSTAINED HEAD, NECK, AND KNEE INJURIES THAT REQUIRED MEDICAL ATTENTION (MRI). THE CONTACT'S DAUGHTER SUSTAINED A NECK INJURY AND SCRATCHES, WHICH REQUIRED MEDICAL ATTENTION. THREE OTHER CHILDREN WERE IN THE VEHICLE WHO SUSTAINED INJURIES AND REQUIRED MEDICAL ATTENTION. A POLICE REPORT WAS FILED. THE CONTACT'S INSURANCE COMPANY TOWED THE VEHICLE AND DEEMED IT TOTALED. THE CONTACT CALLED STUTEVILLE CHRYSLER DODGE (3001 N BROADWAY ST, POTEAU, OK 74953, (918) 647-3183), BUT NO ASSISTANCE WAS PROVIDED. THE DEALER ASKED THE CONTACT TO BUY ANOTHER VEHICLE. THE CONTACT'S INSURANCE COMPANY CONTACTED THE MANUFACTURER. THE MANUFACTURER ADVISED THE CONTACT TO FILE A COMPLAINT. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 40,845. *DT*JB

PASSENGER SITE WILL NOT ALARM (WARN DRIVER) AFTER THE VEHICLE HAD SOFTWARE UPDATE. THE DEALER IS UNABLE TO RESTORE THE PASSENGER ALERTING SYSTEM. SEE ALSO ODI 11185016. *DSY *DT *DT *TR *DT 'PARTS OF THIS DOCUMENT HAVE BEEN REDACTED TO PROTECT PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).'*JB

THE RECALL FOR FIXING THE DRAG LINK SEPARATION IS NOT SAFE. YOU DO NOT WELD ON STEERING COMPONENTS AS YOU CHANGE THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE OF THE MATERIAL AND ALSO YOU CANNOT ADJUST TOE IN AND TOE OUT NO LONGER. THIS TO ME IS CREATING A DANGEROUS AND AT BEST A POOR BAND AID FIX THAT IS MAKING A NEW POTENTIAL PROBLEM.