2004 Pontiac Grand Prix complaints

WHILE DRIVING DOWN ROAD, SMOKE STARTED TO COME OUT FROM CENTER OF DASH, PULLED VEHICLE OVER AND TURNED OFF IGNITION, EXITED DRIVERS SIDE AND PROCEEDED TO PASSENGER FRONT TO INSPECT UNDER DASH, WHEN GOT TO PASSENGER SIDE (10 SECONDS FROM DRIVER SIDE) COULD SEE FIRE UNDER DASH AND PLASTIC DRIPPING FROM UNDER DASH, GOT AWAY FROM VEHICLE, AND WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 2 MINUTES ENTIRE INTERIOR OF VEHICLE WAS ENGULFED BY FLAMES. I WAS DRIVING AT NIGHT WITH HEADLIGHTS ON/ NO FOG/S, AND ONLY HAD FAN BLOWING OUTSIDE AIR IN, NO OTHER ELECTRICAL ACCESSORIES RUNNING, SUCH AS RADIO, INTERIOR LIGHTS). VEHICLE IS COMPLETE LOSS, AND FIREMAN SAYS THIS WAS WORST CAR FIRE HE HAD EVER SEEN FOR SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME VEHICLE WAS ON FIRE. SO FAR INSURANCE COMPANY IS INVESTIGATING, BUT INDICATIONS SHOW ELECTRICAL FIRE POSSIBLY FROM IGNITION SWITCH, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN DASH BY HEATER CONTROLS. NO INJURIES OCCURRED W/ VEHICLE FIRE, VERY HAPPY THAT SEAT BELT DID NOT FAIL/STICK. ONLY HAD VEHICLE FOR 5 MONTHS, BOUGHT NEW AT PONTIAC DEALER, 5600 MILES. VEHICLE WAS 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GT2 W/ OPTIONAL LEATHER SEATS. *AK

PURCHASE 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP ON OCTOBER 25, 2003 FROM FITZGERALD AUTO MALL, ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND. ODOMETER WAS AT 7342 MILES. PROBLEM OCCURRED WHEN TURNING INTO A PARKING SPACE IN A PARKING GARAGE. I HEAR A POP. A LOT OF SMOKE STARTS COMING OUT OF THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. I TURN OFF IGNITION. I UNLATCH THE FRONT HOOD BUT DON'T OPEN IT. LUCKILY I HAD A FIRE EXTINGUISHER IN REAR TRUNK. I SPRAY EXTINGUISHER UNDER FRONT HOOD AND PUT OUT FIRE. I DISCONNECTED BATTERY TO MAKE SURE FIRE DOESN'T RESTART. CAR WAS TOWED TO DEALER (FITZGERALD, ROCKVILLE MARYLAND) WHERE IT WAS PURCHASED. SERVICE SAYS THAT IT WAS POWER STEERING HOSE AND THE STEERING FLUID CAUGHT FIRE. SERVICE SAYS THIS DAMAGE IS COVERED BY WARRANTY. SERVICE IS STILL WAITING FOR REPLACEMENT PARTS AS OF JULY 8, 2004. I MAY TRY TO GET A REFUND CONSIDERING THE FIRE, LACK OF TRUST IN THE STEERING, AND THE LONG PERIOD IT HAS TAKEN THE DEALER TO REPAIR IT.*AK

BOUNCING HEADLIGHTS. SLIGHT BUMPS OR UNEVENNESS OF ROAD SURFACE RESULT IN OBVIOUS HEADLIGHT FLUTTER; VISIBLE ON ROAD SIGNS, THE GLARE OFF THE CAR IN FRONT, REFLECTORS, ETC. CAUSES DISTRACTION TO DRIVER AND OTHER MOTOROSTS. DEALER SAYS THIS IS NORMAL FOR THIS VEHICLE. PONTIAC SHOULD PROVIDE A SOLID FIX FREE OF CHARGE.*AK

MY 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX HAS HEADLIGHTS THAT ARE LOOSE FROM THE FACTORY. WHEN ENCOUNTERING SMALL OR LARGE BUMPS IN THE ROAD MY HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE U AND DOWN. THIS IS A VERY ANNOYING PROBLEM FOR DRIVERS APPROACHING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION. MY DEALER TELLS ME THERE IS NO FIX AVAILABLE. I AM CONSTANTLY BEING FLASHED BY ON COMING TRAFFIC.*AK

HEADLIGHTS ON MY 2004 GRAND PRIX SHAKE CONSTAINTLY.*AK

HEADLIGHT SHAKE BADLY. MAKES NIGHT DRIVING ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. SLIGHTEST VAIRATION OR BUMP IN THE ROAD CAUSES HORRIBLE SHAKING OF LIGHTS. THIS IS AN UNSAFE CONDITION FOR THE DRIVER AND DRIVERS OF ONCOMING VEHICLES.*AK

HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE WHEN DRIVING ON THE ROAD. VERY HAZARDOUS WHEN DRIVING AT NIGHT, ESCPECIALLY ON UNEVEN OR OLD ROAD. PROBLEM HAS BEEN PRESENT SINCE I BOUGHT TH CAR NEW. DEALER HAS NO FIX FOR THE PROBLEM AT THIS TIME.*AK

THE HEADLIGHTS ON MY 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GT2 SEEM TO "BOUNCE" WHILE DRIVING CREATING AN ANNOYANCE TO MYSELF AND OTHER MOTORISTS. I'VE HAD NUMEROUS OTHER DRIVERS FLASH THEIR HEADLIGHTS AT ME. *AK

HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE AT NIGHT CAUSING OTHER DRIVERS TO BELIEVE YOU ARE FLASHING HEADLIGHTS AT THEM. IT SEEMS TO BLIND ONCOMING TRAFFIC. *NM

HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE LIKE CRAZY ON THE SMALLERS BUMPS. CALLED PONTIAC AND GUY SAID HE WAS UNAWRE OF ISSUE, TOTAL BS....THIRD PONTIAC I'VE BBOUGHT SINCE 2000 AND 5TH OVER ALL. WILL BE THE LAST IF THEY DON'T STEP UP AND FIX THE PROBLEM! *AK

HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE AND ARE DISTRACTING. *AK

CRUISE CONTROL FAILS TO ENGAGE OR EXHIBITS A DELAYED ENGAGEMENT. SETTING CRUISE CONTROL ON ONE SPEED AND SOMETIMES ENGAGES ON A SPEED 5MPH LOWER OR FAILS TO ENGAGE AT ALL.*AK

ON MAY 31,2004 I WENT TO NIMNICHT PONTIAC @ 3919 PHILLIPS HIGHWAY. JACKSONVILLE, FL 32207. I FOUND ONE VEHICLE, THAT I PURCHASED. ON TUESDAY, JUNE 8,2004, THE CAR STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ACCELERATION, IT WAS SMOKING FROM UNDER THE HOOD ( SMOKE BOILING OUT FROM UNDER THE HOOD), RUNNING HOT, & SMELLED AS IF IT WERE BURNING. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 9,2004 THEY PICKED UP THE CAR. TRENT STATED THE TEMPERATURE GAUGE WAS READING HIGH & THAT WAS UNUSUAL. THURSDAY, JUNE 10,2004. TRENT ROGERS CALLED @ 2:30 PM TO TELL ME THAT THEY COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR. I INFORMED HIM THAT I DID NOT WANT THAT CAR BACK.HE WOULD SPEAK TO JOHN COMER.@ 3:20PM,I CALLED JOHN COMER, INFORMED ME THAT HE DID NOT HAVE TO MAKE ME HAPPY. I TOLD HIM I DID NOT WANT TO WAIT AROUND, THAT I NEEDED ANOTHER VEHICLE OR I WANTED MY TRADE-IN CAR BACK.ALSO STATED TRENT ROGERS HAD NOT MADE ANY SUCH COMMENT CONCERNING THE VEHICLE RUNNING HOT. 3:45PM, RICHARD REESE (GENERAL MANAGER FOR NIMNICHT PONTIAC) CALLED ME & INFORMED ME THAT THEY FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR. I TOLD HIM I DID NOT WANT THAT CAR BACK. HE SAID, "IT DOES NOT HAVE A CRACKED OR WARPED HEAD." THAT CONCERNED ME MORE THAT HE EVEN MENTIONED A CRACKED OR WARPED HEAD. HE TOLD ME THAT I COULD COME & GET ANOTHER VEHICLE OFF HIS LOT IF I WAS NOT SATIFIED. INFORMED HIM, NONE ON THIS LOT. I WANTED ANOTHER VEHICLE EQUIVALENT TO THE ONE I PURCHASED.SAME COLOR & OPTIONS AS THE VEHICLE I PURCHASED. I THEN CALLED GM BUYBACK @ 1-800-762-2737. I SPOKE TO MS

I HAVE A 2004 GRAND PRIX GTP AND THE HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE AND IT IS A DISTRACTION TO ME AND THE DRIVERS ALL AROUND ME ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF ME AND THIS COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. *AK

AIR CONDITIONER WAS NOT WORKING. POSITION 1 & 2 ON THE HEATER CONTROL WERE INOPERATIVE. TOOK TO DEALER. DEALER REPLACED RESISTOR. DEALER INDICATED THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM.*AK

HEADLIGHTS SHAKE WHEN GOING OVER SMALL BUMPS IN THE ROAD. *AK

THE HEADLIGHTS ARE SHAKING/BOUNCING AROUND WHILE DRIVING. MANUFACTURER IS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM, AND IS PROVIDING A TEMPORARY SOLUTION BY TIGHTENING THE ADJUSTER SCREW. THIS CAUSES THE HEADLIGHT BEAM TO AIM LOW, WHICH REDUCES VISIBILITY.*AK

HEADLIGHT ASSEMBLY: BOTH HEADLIGHTS ON THE FRONT ARE "BOUNCING / SHAKING" WHEN YOU DRIVE THE VEHICLE. THIS IS EASILY DUPLICATED WHEN YOU DRIVE THE VEHICLE IN THE EVENING WHEN IT'S DARK. *AK ONCOMING VEHICLES HAVE FLASHED THERE HIGH BEAMS BECAUSE OF THE RESULT OF THE LIGHTS SHAKING UP AND DOWN. THE HEADLIGHT ASSEMBLY IS LOOSE AND THIS IS COMMON WITH OTHER 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIXS (ACCORDING TO A PONTIAC MESSAGE BOARD). I PHONED PONTIAC REGARDING THIS PROBLEM AND WAS TOLD THEY ARE "LOWERING THE HEADLIGHT BEAM CLOSER TO THE GROUND FROM THE FRONT OF VEHICLE". THIS WILL REDUCE VISIBILITY IN NIGHT TIME DRIVING AND WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. THE HEADLIGHTS WILL CONTINUE TO BOUNCE & SHAKE, BUT WILL NOT BOUNCE HIGH IN THE AIR BLINDING OTHER DRIVERS.

HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE WHEN DRIVING OVER UNEVEN PAVEMENT. THIS IS DISTRACTING TO THE DRIVER AND ALSO TO ONCOMING VEHICLES. I DO NOT YET SEE A TSB ON THIS PROBLEM.*AK

INTERMEDIATE DRIVE SHAFT REPLACED AT 1,500 MILES. POWER STEERING PUMP WENT AT 2,000 MILES, HAD IT REPLACED. ALSO AT 2,000 MILES CV JOINT AND BOOT HAD TO BE REPLACE. HEADLIGHTS BOUNCE WHILE DRIVING OVER MINIMAL BUMPS, DOOR PANEL RATTLES. DASH ABOVE SPEEDOMETER RATTLES BUT DEALER CAN NOT DUPLICATE SO NO FIX YET. CAR IS GOING BACK TO THE DEALER TODAY FOR A RATTLING NOISE COMING FROM FRONT END. NEED I SAY MORE? LEMON!

VEHICLE WAS BROKEN INTO THROUGH A SMALL SLIT LOCATED BELOW THE DOOR HANDLE. IN THIS PROCESS THE ALARM WAS BYPASSED THEN THE DOOR HANDLE WAS THEN FORCED OPEN. *PH THE CONSUMER HAS SEEN SIMILAR VEHICLES WITH THE SAME SLIT UNDER THE DOOR HANDLE. *NM

STRUT MOUNTS WORN AT 3 MONTHS OLD. *AK

THE DAY OF THE WEEK DOES NOT MATCH THE DATE. I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO RESET THE DATE, AND IT STILL DISPLAYS THE WRONG DAY OF THE WEEK. CONTACTED THE DEALER AND THEY STATED THEY COULD RESET THE SYSTEM BUT IT IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH NO LONG TERM FIX YET. *JB

POSITION OF THE CRUISE CONTROL LEVER MAKES IT EASY TO ACCIDENTALLY DISENGAGE. WHEN USING THE DECEL FEATURE TO REDUCE SPEED BY 1 MPH, CAN UNKNOWINGLY MOVE THE LEVEL REARWARD SLIGHTLY, CAUSING CRUISE TO DISENGAGE.*AK

WHENEVER I START FROM A COMPLETE STOP, MY 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GT2 MAKES A POPPING NOISE UNDER THE FRONT DRIVER'S SIDE. ALSO UPON STARTING, A LOUDER POPPING NOISE IS HEARD FROM THE REAR OF THE CAR. ON A COUPLE OF OCCASSIONS, WHENEVER I START IN DRIVE (COLD ENGINE), THE ENGINE REVS AND SERGES FORWARD, (I HAD TO APPLY THE BRAKES VERY QUICKLY OR I WOULD HAVE HIT ANOTHER VEHICLE.) ALSO, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HEAR TAPPET? NOISE FROM THE ENGINE. I DRIVE LIKE A GRANDMA AND KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES, SO I KNOW IT'S NOT FROM MY DRIVING.*AK

HEADLIGHTS ON MY 2004 GRAND PRIX VIBRATE (BOUNCE) WHEN GOING OVER BUMPS, VERY DISTRACTING. EXHAUST SYSTEM HAS LOUD AND ANNOYING PINGING SOUND, MOST NOTICABLE FOR A WHILE AFTER CAR HAS BEEN DRIVEN, THEN TURNED OFF.*AK

HEADS-UP DISPLAY SHOWS DOUBLE IMAGE AND IS BLURRY-- REPLACEMENT WINDSHIELD AT CUSTOMER EXPENSE CORRECTED PROBLEM.*AK

WHEN GOING OVER BUMPS OR SLOWING COMING TO A STOP, YOU CAN HEAR A THUD NOISE COMING FROM THE REAR FLOOR AREA. *AK

WHEN I GO OVER BUMPS IN THE ROAD OR TURN THE WHEEL THE VEH MAKES A CLUNKING/KNOCKING SOUND IN THE FLOOR AND SOMETIMES WHEN I TURN THE WHEEL (PARKED OR MOVING) THERE IS A SIMILAR, CLANKING SOUND NEAR THE WHEELS. I HAVE TAKEN THE VEH TO THE DEALERSHIP TO BE CHECK SEVERAL TIMES. THE FIRST FEW TIMES THEY TORE IT DOWN AND TIGHTENED THINGS. THE LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY CONTACTED PONTIAC AND WAS INFORMED THIS WAS HAPPENING ON SEVERAL VEHS AND DO NOT HAVE A FIX.*AK

IT LOOKS LIKE I AM ONE OF MANY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BOUNCING HEADLIGHTS. THIS IS NOT ONLY DISTRACTING TO MYSELF, BUT TO OTHER DRIVERS. I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT SOMETHING WILL BE DONE TO REMEDY THIS FROM THE MANUFACTURER.*AK

WHILE TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL THE DRIVER UNKNOWINGLY ENGAGED THE CRUISE CONTROL. THE CONSUMER CONTACTED THE DEALER WHO INDICATED THAT IS HOW THE VEHICLE IS DESIGNED. PLEASE PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. *NM

HEADS UP DISPLAY (HUD) OVERCOMPENSATES WHEN AUTODIMMING/ BRIGHTENING. AUTO FEATURE CANNOT BE TURNED OFF. SOMETIMES IMAGE WILL BE SO DIM YOU CANT SEE IT. OTHER TIMES, WHEN SET TO LOWEST SETTING, IMAGE IS SO BRIGHT A GREEN RECTANGULAR BOX BACKLIGHTS THE ENTIRE IMAGE.

REAR DEFOGGER GRIDS INOPERATIVE. DEALER FOUND AND REPAIRED MINUTE CRACKS IN HEATER ELEMENT ON TWO OCCASIONS. NEW REAR WINDOW TO BE INSTALLED SINCE PROBLEM CANNOT BE REPAIRED

AFTER REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS WITH REGARD TO BOUCING HEADLIGHTS... I TOO AM HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM... PLEASE ADVISE ON NEXT STEPS.*AK

NOT ALL GRIDS IN REAR DEFROSTER WORKING. WHEN DEFROSTER IS ON I GET STATIC FEEDBACK INTO THE RADIO. DEALER REPAIRED GRIDS ONCE, BUT PROBLEM CONTIUNED AS SOON AS I PICKED UP THE CAR. DEALER IS TO REPLACE GLASS NEXT WEEK.*AK

H.U.D. DISPLAYS A VERY BLURRY IMAGE/DOUBLE IMAGE, AND ALSO DIMS TO ALMOST NOT VISABLE WHILE DRIVING. H.U.D DIMMER KNOB IS SET TO FULL BRIGHT, AND IT STILL DIMS.*AK

WHILE STOPPED AT A STOP LIGHT, THE ENGINE SERGED TO 3000 RPM, AND ALMOST CAUSED ME TO HIT THE CAR INFROM OF ME. HAS ONLY HAPPEN ONCE SO FAR. *AK

VEHICLE PULLS TO RIGHT. WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT AND TOE ADJUSTED BOTH SIDES. PROBLEM RECURRED AFTER APPROX. 200 MILES. WAS FOUND TO BE OUT OF ALIGNMENT AGAIN AND TORQUE STEERING UPON ACCELERATION. DEALER LOOSENED CRADLE BOLTS AND SHIFTED CRADLE RIGHT, THEN RESET TOE EACH SIDE.

AFTER COLD VEHICLE START AT AMBIENT TEMPERATURES OF 45-55F VEHICLE SURGES OR STALLS AFTER A REVERSE-DRIVE SHIFT. DEALER STATES VEHICLE CALIBRATION WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE.*AK

CAN HEAR A SQUEAKING NOISE FROM REAR OF VEHICLE OVER BUMPS OR SIDE-TO-SIDE MOVEMENT. FOUND RIGHT REAR EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE LOOSE AND RUBBING ON ABS WIRING HARNESS. REPAIRED AND PROBLEM REOCCURED. REPAIRED AGAIN.*AK

VEHICLE PULLS TO THE RIGHT AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS W/ STEERING WHEEL STRAIGHT. DEALER FOUND OUT OF ALIGNMENT AND ADJUSTED TOE BOTH SIDE. PROBLEM RETURNED W/IN 200 MILES.*AK

HEADLIGHTS NOT AIMED PROPERLY OR BOUNCING. ONCOMING TRAFFIC WILL FLASH HIGHBEAMS. AFTER RIDING BEHIND SOMEONE THEY WILL COMMENT MY LIGHTS SHAKE AND ARE TOO BRIGHT. *LA

HEADLIGHT BOUNCE UPDATE. PROBLEM CONTINUES TO PERSIST. OTHER VEHICLE OWNERS HAVE REPORTED SIMILAR PROBLEMS. SEE MORE INFORMATION HERE: HTTP://WWW.CLUBGP.COM/NEWFORUM/TM.ASP?M=883856&P=1&MPAGE=1&TMODE=1&SMODE=1&KEY=&LANGUAGE=

WHILE AT A COMPLETE STOP, VEHICLE WAS REAR ENDED AT 50 MPH. UPON IMPACT, VEHICLE WAS PUSH FORWARD, AND REAR ENDED BY ANOTHER MOTORIST. NONE OF THE AIR BAGS DEPLOYED. AS A RESULT, CONSUMER SUSTAINED BACK AND NECK INJURIES. UPON INSPECTION OF THE VEHICLE BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY, THEY NOTICED THAT AIR BAG SENSOR WAS DAMAGED IN THE CRASH.*AK

HEADS-UP DISPLAY BLURRY OR SHOWING DOUBLE IMAGES. DEALER SAYS WITHIN SPECIFICATIONS THOUGH OTHER VEHICLES ON LOT DO NOT SHOW DOUBLED IMAGES OR SHOW IT WORSE. *LA

PROBLEM: BRAKING SYSTEM PROBLEM. OCCURRED ONLY ONCE SO FAR. I HAD STOPPED AT A STORE AND WHEN I LEFT, THE FIRST TIME I APPLIED THE BRAKE IT FELT THE SAME AS IF I HAD JUST GONE THROUGH A CAR WASH (MUCH GREATER PEDAL PRESSURE NEEDED TO STOP). I CONTINUED ON TO MY WORKPLACE AND HAD TO APPLY THE BRAKES SEVERAL MORE TIMES. EACH SUBSEQUENT TIME THE SAME CONDITION HAPPENED. MUCH GREATER PEDAL PRESSURE WAS REQUIRED TO BRING THE CAR TO A STOP. IT FELT AS THOUGH 50-75% OF THE BRAKING POWER WAS GONE. I IMMEDIATELY CHECKED THE FLUID AND IT WAS RIGHT AT THE MAX LINE. STRANGELY, WHEN I LEFT WORK SEVERAL HOURS LATER THE PROBLEM DISAPPEARED AND HAS NOT HAPPENED SINCE. OBVIOUSLY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT POSSIBLE HAPPENING AGAIN. I'M GUESSING IT MUST HAVE BEEN AN ELECTRONIC GLITCH OF SOME SORT??! *LA

MY HEADLIGHTS ARE BOUNCING UP AND DOWN WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD IN MY 2004 GRAND PRIX GTP W/COMP G.THIS IS VERY DISTRACTING TO BOTH ME AND THE OTHER CARS TRAVELING TOWARDS ME. GM DOES NOT SEEM TO CONCERNED BUT, EVIDENTLY THEY ARE NOT THE ONES DRIVING THE CAR. THERE HAS BEEN NO ACCIDENT, I JUST FILLED OUT THE INCIDENT DATE SO I COULD PROCEED TO THE NEXT PAGE. *LA

2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX. BOUNCING HEADLIGHTS - ANNOYING AND DISTRACTING TO SURROUNDING TRAFFIC. NEEDS TO IMPROVE HEADLIGHT MOUNTING. *LA

HEADLIGHTS ON 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX BOUNCE UNDER BUMPY CONDITIONS. CAUSES A DISTRATION TO BOTH DRIVER AND OTHER MOTORISTS. I'VE BEEN YELLED AT BY OTHER MOTORISTS THAT MY LIGHTS ARE DISTRACTING AND SIMULATE THE FLASHING LIGHTS OF A POLICE CAR. I'VE ALSO HAD CARS PULL OVER WHEN I AM BEHIND THEM AND AS I PASS SPEED UP, PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THEY REALIZE I AM NOT A POLICE OFFICER. *LA

VEHICLE WAS EMITTING BLUE SMOKE FROM ITS TAIL-PIPE DUE TO EXCESSIVE USE OF OIL. SINCE THE VEHICLE HAS 4000 MILES ON IT, THE DEALER SUSPECTS IT'S A BAD ENGINE. *LA