THE CAR STALLED WHILE COMING TO A STOP AT A TRAFFIC LITE. WARNINGS LIGHTS ON INCLUDED: VSC,ENGINE WARNING LITE. CAR RESTARTED AND WENT ABOUT 500 FT. GOING ABOUT 35 MPH AND STALLED AGAIN. COASTED TO BERM, CALLED DEALER, WHO SAID IT WAS DRIVEABLE TO DEALERSHIP. STARTED OUT ON I295, WENT UP TO 48 MPH AND ENGINE STOPPED. COASTED TO SIDE OF ROAD AND WAS TOWED TO DEALER. DEALER KEPT CAR OVER A WK, SAID SINCE BATTERY WAS DEAD, CHIP HAD NO INFO. THEY FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR AND RETURNED IT TO ME.
2004 Toyota Prius complaints
Owner reports filed with NHTSA about this vehicle, newest first and reproduced as filed. They are unverified accounts: one proves nothing, and a pattern across many is the thing worth reading. Back to the full 2004 record →
I WAS TRANSITIONING BETWEEN TWO FREEWAYS IN MY 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AND HAD STARTED BRAKING/DECELERATING FOR A LOOMING TRAFFIC JAM UP AHEAD WHEN THE GAS ENGINE STALLED AND ALL DASH WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON, ALONG WITH THE NAV SYSTEM SCREEN SAYING "PROBLEM" AND A RED CAR ICON. MY SPEED COULD HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE BETWEEN 70MPH AND 35MPH AT THE TIME OF THE STALL. THE ELECTRIC MOTOR WAS STILL FUNCTIONAL, SO I EXITED THE FREEWAY, PARKED THE CAR, POWERED IT OFF, THEN POWERED IT BACK ON. THE RED TRIANGLE OF DEATH WAS STILL LIT ON THE DASH, AS WELL AS THE ENGINE CHECK LIGHT, BUT THE GAS ENGINE WAS NOW OPERATING NORMALLY AND WAS RECHARGING THE ALMOST-DEPLETED ELECTRIC DRIVE BATTERY. I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE HOME WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INCIDENT. THE NEXT DAY, I TOOK MY CAR INTO TOYOTA OF HUNTINGTON BEACH FOR REPAIR, AND THEY "REPROGRAMMED [THE] ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE". MY SYMPTOMS SEEM RELATED TO THE PE05029 DEFECT INVESTIGATION AND THE NHTSA ODI COMPLAINTS OF OTHER PRIUS DRIVERS. THIS DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE A RECALL ITEM BECAUSE A SUDDEN DECELERATION TO 40MPH ON A FREELY MOVING FREEWAY WITH OTHER TRAFFIC TRAVELING AT 75MPH COULD BE A VERY DANGEROUS REAR-END COLLISION RISK.
VEHICLE STALLED WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 25-30MPH ON SURFACE STREET WITH 1/4 TANK OF GAS REMAINING.
I OWN A TOYOTA PRIUS PURCHASED IN FEB. 2004. ON THREE OCCASIONS, THE WARNINGS LIGHTS HAVE COME ON WHILE DRIVING AND THE CAR RAPIDLY LOOSES ALL POWER AND CANNOT BE MOVED. THE MOST RECENT INCIDENT OCCURRED TODAY, 8/14/05. I HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED THAT WHATEVER HAS CAUSED THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN CORRECTED, AS APPARENT WITH TODAY'S INCIDENT. I HAVE REPORTED THESE INCIDENTS TO TOYOTA AND WILL SEND THEIR SUBSEQUENT CORRESPONDENCE. I HAVE OWNED TOYOTA VEHICLES SINCE 1980 AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. WITH THIS THIRD INCIDENT, I INTEND TO PURSUE ALL AVENUES AVAILABLE TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION. *NM
STARTING AROUND MAY,2005, WHEN VEHICLE WAS STARTED WITH THE BATTERY INDICATOR NOT QUITE AT FULL CAPACITY, LETS SAY SEVEN 'BARS', JUST PUTTING THE CAR IN REVERSE WOULD BEGIN THE GRADUAL DECLINE OF CHARGE. IF DRIVING UP A FRWY RAMP, THE INDICATOR WOULD SHOW THE CHARGE HAD DROPPED INTO THE 'RED' ZONE. AT THIS TIME THE ENGINE WOULD SOUND LIKE THE RPMS WERE ABOUT 4,000, A REAL REVVING SOUND. SLOWLY ,WITH A STEADY LEVEL DRIVE THE BATTERY WOULD RECHARGE AND LOOK AS IF IT WERE NORMAL. THERE WAS NO STALLING OF ENGINE BUT I RARELY DRIVE AS SLOW AS 65 MPH! THE WHOLE PROCESS, HAPPENING AT LEAST ONCE A DAY WAS VERY NERVE WRACKING...ESPECIALLY IN THE MOHAVE DESERT WITH MANY 18-WHEELERS SURROUNDING THE CAR. THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED I IMMEDIATELY CALLED TOYOTA OF TEMECULA VALLEY. I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS NOT GOOD AND TO BRING THE CAR IN FOR DIAGNOSIS. WHEN I BROUGHT IT IN, A 'TECHNICIAN' LOOKED AT THE INDICATOR AND SAID IT WAS OK AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT. I HAD A DIFFICULT TIME BELIEVING THAT AND MADE AN APPT. WITH TOYOTA OF EL CAJON. WHEN THEIR TECHNICIAN USED A DIAGNOSTIC SCANTOOL HE ALSO SAID HE COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM. I DID NOT BELIEVE HIM OR THE SERVICE $80/HR. GUY AND SAID THERE WAS EITHER SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEIR DIAGNOSTIC TOOLS AND/OR SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM TO THINK I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THEIR STORY. I HAD NO IDEA HOW RIGHT I WAS UNTIL I READ ABOUT THE DEFECT INVESTIGATION ON YOUR WEBSITE. MY PRIUS HAS NOT STALLED (YET) BUT IT HAS ALL THE PROBLEMS LEADING UP TO IT. THE DEALER
DT: VEHICLE STALLED INTERMITTENTLY AND LOST POWER. *AK THE CONSUMER SOLD THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP. *JB
3 MONTHS AGO, ALL OF THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHTS IN MY TOYOTA PRIUS 04 CAME ON. I BROUGHT IT STRAIGHT TO THE DEALER. THEY TOOK IT FOR A TEST DRIVE, BUT THE LIGHTS HAD GONE OFF AND THEY REFUSED TO CHECK IT, SAYING IT WAS OKAY. THEN, YESTERDAY, ALL OF THE LIGHTS CAME ON AGAIN. I WAS ON THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY BRIDGE AND COULD NOT PULL OVER ANYWHERE. THEN, THE ACCELERATOR STOPPED WORKING AND THE CAR ROLLED TO A STOP. I CALLED 911 AND TRIED TO TURN OFF THE CAR. THE CAR WOULD NOT TURN OFF. THE ACCELERATOR STILL WOULDN'T WORK AND I WAS STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF HEAVY TRAFFIC ON THE BRIDGE. FINALLY, CALTRANS USED A TOW TRUCK TO PUSH ME OFF OF THE BRIDGE. I WAS THEN TOWED TO THE TOYOTA DEALER. THE TOYOTA DEALER CHECKED THE CAR AND DISCOVERED THAT I HAD A BUG IN THE SOFTWARE CONTROL UNIT. HE UPDATED THE SOFTWARE AND, SUPPOSEDLY, IT NOW WORKS. I ASKED HIM IF IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE THAT WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWS AS A POTENTIAL RECALL AND HE SAID YES. *JB
2004 TOYOTA PRIUS INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE FAILED TO START BUT VEHICLE OPERATED IN ELECTRIC MODE. WHEN BATTERY FAILED, THE VEHICLE SHUTDOWN IN PARK SO WE WERE UNABLE TO PUSH THE VEHICLE OUT OF THE STREET. FAILURE OF A COMPONENT SHOULD NOT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE THE VEHICLE. VEHICLE SHOULD NOT FAIL IN PARK. *JB
DT: THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS. THE CAR GOES INTO A MODE WHERE IT WILL NOT LET THE CONSUMER SHIFT INTO GEAR AND BECAUSE IT IS ELECTRIC SHIFT, THE CONSUMER DOES NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO SHIFT INTO GEAR. IF HE IS ON A HILL THIS CONDITION WOULD MAKE THE VEHICLE COAST DOWN HILL. WHEN THE CONSUMER GETS INTO THE CAR, PRESSES THE BRAKE AND PRESSES THE POWER BUTTON THE CAR GOES INTO THE IGNITION ON MODE INSTEAD OF THE READY MODE. IF HE IS LOOKING AT THE DASH HE CAN TELL THIS HAS HAPPENED BUT IF HE DOES NOT LOOK AT THE DASH HE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO SHIFT THE CAR INTO GEAR. IF THE CAR IS ON A SLOPE IT WILL GO DOWN THE SLOPE AS SOON AS HE LETS OFF THE BRAKE AND STEPPING ON THE GAS DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. OBVIOUSLY IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN FRONT OR BEHIND THE CAR AND THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CARS PATH DOWN THE HILL HE WOULD RUN INTO IT. ALSO, TWO VISITS TO THE DEALER UNABLE TO DUPLICATE OR FIX THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS INTERMITTENT. *NM *JB
DT: WHILE DRIVING 50 MPH VEHICLE LOST POWER/DIED. CONSUMER TOOK VEHICLE TO DEALER WHO REPLACED THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY. *AK
DRIVING DOWNHILL ~50 MPH WHEN ALL WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON. CAR WOULDN'T ACCELERATE. GAS ENGINE WOULD NOT START AND BATTERY CHARGE WAS DROPPING FAST. LIMPED ~1 MILE HOME AT 25 MPH. TURNED OFF CAR, TOO LATE TO CALL TOYOTA THAT NIGHT. TURNED CAR ON AND GAS ENGINE STARTED RIGHT UP. ALL WARNING LIGHTS STILL ON, AND MAIN BATTERY NEARLY DRAINED. SLOWLY DROVE AROUND ON LOCAL STREETS, BATTERY CHARGED. PARKED AND TURNED OFF CAR. LATER IN DAY, TURNED ON CAR, ALL WARNING LIGHTS WERE OFF. TOOK IT TO DEALER WHEN WE GOT HOME. DEALER CLAIMED COMPUTER HAD NO RECORD OF THE PROBLEM. PRIOR TO THIS EVENT, TOYOTA HAD UPGRADED THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE ON THIS CAR AS DESCRIBED IN HV ECU SOFTWARE UPDATE 00204. WE WERE TOLD THIS FIXED THE STALLING PROBLEM, BUT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT. JB
DT: CONTACT STATED THE ENGINE STALLED/LOST POWER ON TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. *AK
CAR SUDDENLY LOST POWER WHEN BEING DRIVEN 30 MPH ON CITY ROAD. COMPUTER SAID BATTERY POWER LOST; SEEMS LIKE GAS ENGINE WAS NOT RECHARGING BATTERY, BUT THERE WAS NO WARNING UNTIL POWER LOSS. I WAS STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF A CITY STREET WITH 2 SMALL CHILDREN, AS THE CAR WOULD NOT MAKE IT TO SIDE OF ROAD. ANOTHER MOTORIST HELPED PUSH ME TO SIDE OF ROAD AND NO ONE WAS HURT. THE GAS TANK WAS FULL AT THE TIME OF THIS INCIDENT. ALTHOUGH VEHICLE COULD NOT MOVE, THE DASHBOARD AND COMPUTER STILL HAD POWER; IT WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO SHUT IT DOWN, OR REMOVE THE KEY FOB. THE CAR WAS TOWED TO A DEALERSHIP, AND NOW MUST BE TOWED TO ANOTHER DEALIERSHIP THAT SERVICES THIS MODEL. NO REPAIR HAS YET BEEN ATTEMPTED BUT I WANTED TO REPORT INCIDENT BECAUSE MY INTERNET RESEARCH INDICATED YOU WERE INVESTIGATING THIS MODEL FOR A NUMBER OF SIMILAR PROBLEMS. THE CAR WAS PURCHASED IN NOVEMBER 2003 AND HAS 15,299 MILES ON IT. I HAD ONE INCIDENT 12 MONTHS AGO WHEN I COULD NOT START THE VEHICLE, BUT I WAS ABLE TO FINALLY AFTER 10 MINUTES OR SO. I HAVE HAD NO PREVIOUS BREAK DOWNS HOWEVER.
I WAS ACCELERATING INTO A YIELD SITUATION WHERE I HAD ROOM TO MERGE FROM AN OFFRAMP AND THE GAS MOTOR DIDN'T KICK IN. THE CHECK-ENGINE LIGHT FLASHED, THE CAR VIBRATED, AND IT MOVED ONLY AS IF THE ELECTRIC MOTOR WAS GOING FOR A FEW SECONDS AND THEN, AS I WAS FLOORING IT, THE CAR JARTED OUT INTO THE INTERSECTION WHERE NOW THERE WASN'T ROOM AND I BECAME INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT
1) MY WIFE WAS DRIVING OUR 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AND THE CAR HAD A WARNING LIGHT TURN ON ON DISPLAY, WENT TO "LIMP" MODE (SLOW) AND SUDDENLY STOPPED AFTER 1/2 MILE. 2) CAR COULD NOT BE CONTROLLED, NO POWER. 3) TOYOTA TOWED CAR TO SHOP AND REPLACED ECU CONTROLLER IN AREA OF FUEL TANK, ECU RELAY AND ENTIRE FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY. PROBLEM HAS NOT HAPPENED AGAIN.
I WAS DRIVING MY 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS APPROXIMATELY 35-40 MILES PER HOUR ON A LOCAL STREET WHEN THE "CHECK ENGINE" LIGHT AND THE SAFETY TRIANGLE LIGHT BOTH ILLUMINATED. I NOTICED THAT THE GAS ENGINE STOPPED RUNNING AT THE TIME OF THE FAILURE ALTHOUGH THE ELECTRIC MOTOR GOT ME TO THE DEALERSHIP WHERE THE CAR IS SERVICED. THE DELERSHIP CALLED ME IN A COUPLE OF HOURS TO TELL ME THAT THE CAR IS READY. I WAS TOLD THAT THEY JUST HAD TO RESET THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE TO FIX THE CAR. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE RESEARCHING THIS PROBLEM AND WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF MY SITIUATION. THANK YOU.
DT: WHILE DRIVING AT A STEADY PACE, THE VEHICLE STALLED. *AK *JB
DT: WHILE DRIVING ON DRY PAVEMENT AT 35 MPH THE VEHICLE STALLED. THE CONSUMER PULLED OFF TO THE MEDIAN. THERE WERE LIGHTS FLASHING IN DASHBOARD, THE DRIVER NOTICED THAT THE WARNING CODES INCLUDED DO NOT DRIVE, AND NO BRAKES, ETC. JUST BEFORE STALLING, THE WARNING CODES CAME ON, INCLUDING NO BRAKES, DO NOT DRIVE, ALL HAZARDS, THE EXPLANATION POINTED TO A TRIANGLE AND ALL PRECAUTIONARY SAFETY WARNING LIGHTS APPEARED. ONCE THE VEHICLE WAS STOPPED AT A MEDIAN THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE CAR, IT WAS TOTALLY DEAD. AFTER THE LIGHTS CAME ON, NO ACCELERATION, THERE WAS NO ENGINE SOUND TO THE OWNER'S KNOWLEDGE. THERE WAS NO OBVIOUS LOSS OF POWER STEERING AS FAR AS THE OWNER KNEW, IT WAS NOT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET TO THE MEDIAN. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE RESTARTED. THE OWNER TRIED TO START THE VEHICLE TWICE. AT THIS POINT, THE OWNER DIDN'T KNOW IF THE LIGHTS STAYED ON, BUT THE HAZARDS LIGHTS WERE WORKING AS SHE LEFT TO GO CALL FOR HELP. AT THE DEALERSHIP, THE VEHICLE WAS JUMPED TO GET IT OFF THE TOW TRUCK. THIS OCCURRED ABOUT 45 MINUTES. THE DEALER STATED THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT COULD BE WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE, AND THIS SEEMED TO BE A NEW OCCURRENCE TO THE DEALERSHIP. *AK *SC *JB
DT: THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ILLUMINATED ON THE DASH AND REMAINED ON FOR ABOUT A DAY. OTHER LIGHT ILLUMINATED AS WELL BUT THE CONSUMER CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONES. THE CONSUMER MADE IT TO HIS DESTINATION WHERE HE STAYED 2 HOURS, AND UPON LEAVING THE ENGINE STARTED IMMEDIATELY. THE CONSUMER CALLED THE DEALER BUT THEY OFFERED NO DIAGNOSIS. THE DEALER DID NOT REPROGRAM THE ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT. *AK *NM
I WAS DRIVING ABOUT 45 MPH AND FELT THE POWER DIE AND SAW THE DASHBOARD WARNING LIGHTS COME ON. I HAD TO STOP AT A LIGHT AND THE CAR ACCELERATED BUT FELT LIKE IT WAS COASTING. I WAS VERY CLOSE TO HOME AND MADE IT ABOUT 500 FEET FROM MY DRIVEWAY WHEN THE CAR STOPPED. I COULD NOT TURN OFF THE ENGINE, THE LIGHTS NOR WOULD THE CAR GO INTO DRIVE OR REVERSE. SINCE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, AFTER ABOUT 15 MINUTES I PUT THE CAR INTO NEUTRAL AND ROLLED DOWN THE HILL CLOSER TO THE CURB. AFTER I GOT TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, I ONCE AGAIN TRIED TO START THE CAR AND THIS TIME IT STARTED EASILY. IT WAS TOWED TO THE DEALER WHO HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM NOR DEALT WITH IT. THEY CALLED THE NEXT DAY TO SAY THE COMPUTER SAID IT NEEDED TO BE REPROGRAMED AND THAT THE CAR WAS FIXED. THEY HAD NO IDEA WHY THIS HAPPENED BUT NOW THAT THE PROGRAM WAS RESET, "IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN." I LOVE THIS CAR HOWEVER, I AM GETTING 40-42MPG WHERE OTHERS I HAVE SPOKEN WITH ARE INTO THE 50 MPG RANGE, AND NOW I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT STALLING OUT. THE CAR HAS ABOUT 13,000 MILES.
FOR THE SECOND TIME MY 2004 PRIUS HAS STALLED WHILE DRIVING AND SHUT DOWN. I HAVE ATTACHED MY PREVIOUS REPORT TO YOU WHEN IT HAPPED IN MAY 2005. THE FIRST TIME THE ECU WAS REPROGRAMED. THIS TIME I WAS DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY GOING 65 MILES PER HOUR ON JULY 2, 2005 WHEN THE EMERGENCY ENGINE LIGHTS CAME ON ON THE DASH BOARD. THE VEHICLE QUICKLY LOSS POWER BEFORE THE ENGINE SHUT DOWN. THE BATTERY METER CONFIRMED THE LOSS OF RESERVE. I HAD THE VEHICLE TOWED APPROXIMATELY 50 MILES TO MAITA TOYOTA WHERE I HAVE MY PRIUS SERVICE. THE VEHICLE WAS KEEP FROM JULY 2 - 12, 2005. THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM. I PICKED UP THE VEHICLE AND DROVE IT HOME TODAY. NOW I HAVE TO WATCH FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT IT HAPPENS FOR TOYOTA TO RESEARCH THE PROBLEM MORE. A FILE WAS OPEN WITH TOYOTA #2005 00071145 BUT WITHOUT ANY HELP TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM. CONTACT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236) TTY ' 1-800-424-9153 OR ' 1-202-484-5238 ' ' ' CONSUMER INFORMATION NAME : MR. CHRISTOPHER SMITH ORG. NAME : ADDRESS : P O BOX 1543 CITY, STATE, ZIP : CARMICHAEL, CA 95608 USA DAYTIME PHONE : 9163908494 DESCRIPTION : 5/6/05 MY 2004 PRIUS WITH 20,400 MILES WITHOUT WARNING LOSS ALL POWER AND SHUT DOWN WHILE DRIVING HAZARD LIGHT CAME ON WARNING TO TAKE TO TOYOTA DEALER. THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT START. THE BATTERY METER LEVEL WAS COMPLETELY DEAD. THE VEHICLE HAD TO BE TOWED TO MAITA TOYOTA 2500 AUBURN BLVD, SACRAMENTO, CA 95821, 916 481-5353 FOR REPAIR. THE WORK ORDER STATED THE CAUSE WAS THE
DT; LAST SUMMER WAS DRIVING DOWN HIGHWAY AT ABOUT 45-50 MPH AND ONE OF THE ENGINES WENT OUT, AND THE CAR DECELERATED AND FINALLY STALLED OUT. PARKED BY ROADSIDE ,AND HAD TO BE TOWED TO DEALERSHIP. SERVICEMAN DID A COMPUTER CORRECTION, BUT DID NOT RECORD THIS BECAUSE IT HAPPENED AT NIGHT. AGAIN ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO THE ENGINE WENT OUT, CAR SLOWED, AND WOULD NOT RESTART. HAD TO BE TOWED TO DEALERSHIP. THE CAR WAS RETURNED WITHOUT EXPLANATION. AFRAID THIS MAY HAPPEN AGAIN. *AK *SB
DT: CONSUMER STATED: VEHICLE QUIT WHILE DRIVING, THE WARNING LIGHTS DID COME ON BEFORE IT DIED. WHILE GOING 30-35 MPH AND IT JUST DIED AND COULDN'T RESTART. THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM STAYED ON. CALLED TOW TRUCK BY THE TIME THEY GOT THERE IT STARTED. STILL HAD TO TAKE IT TO DEALER, AND WARNING LIGHTS WENT OUT. DEALERSHIP REPROGRAMMED THE COMPUTER.*AK *SB
DT: OWN 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AND ON 6 DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WHILE DRIVING IN THE CITY, THE ENGINE HAS STALLED OUT. THE CONSUMER HAD TO STOP AND WAIT ABOUT 10 MINUTES AND RESTART THE ENGINE AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE. TOOK TO DEALER AND THEY COULD NOT DIAGNOSE THIS UNLESS THEY ENCOUNTERED THIS AS IT HAPPENED. THIS IS THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE VEHICLE. *TT *SC *JB
FAX LTR INVESTIGATION OF THE TOYOTA PRIUS HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLE MODEL YEARS 2004 & 2005 REPORTS OF VEHICLE STALLING AT HIGH SPEEDS.*MR *NM
WAS DRIVING HOME AT APPROXIMATELY 50MPH WHEN THE 2004 PRIUS SUDDENLY SHUT DOWN AND WAS INOPERATIVE. WE PULLED THE CAR OVER, WAITED ABOUT 15 MINUTES, AND WAS ABLE TO RESTART. THE MOTOR.
2004 TOYOTA PRIUS. STALLED WHILE DRIVING AT ABOUT 40 MPH. ABLE TO RESTART CAR AFTER DRIVING WITH ELECTRIC MOTOR FOR A FEW BLOCKS.
ENGINE FAILURE AT APPROXIMATELY 55 MPH. HAD JUST COME THROUGH A TOLL GATE AND MERGING INTERSECTION. WHILE ACCELERATING THROUGH ABOUT 55 MPH THE DASHBOARD LIGHTS ALL LIT UP AND THE ENGINE DIED. TRAVELLED TO A SAFE LOCATION VIA BATTERY POWER AND CALLED DEALER. CAR HAS BEEN TOWED TO TOYOTA DEALER IN LEESBURG, BUT THEY CAN NOT WORK ON THE CAR UNTIL A BATTERY CHARGER IS REVIEVED FROM TOYOTA. THEY SAY THERE IS ONLY ONE IN THE 4 STATE REGION SO IT COULD BE A WEEK OR SO. NO EXPLAINATION BY SERVICE DEPARTMENT ON WHAT CAUSES THIS PROBLEM.
DT: CONSUMER HAD 2 EPISODES OF ENGINE STALLING. THE 1ST TIME CONSUMER'S VEHICLE WAS PASSING ANOTHER VEHICLE WHEN ANOTHER VEHICLE APPEARED IN THE LANE AND CONSUMER ACCELERATED QUICKLY AND CHANGED LANE. THE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON ALONG WITH A BEEPING NOISE, AND SUDDENLY LOST POWER. WAS RUNNING ONLY ON ELECTRIC POWER UNTIL WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE ENGINE DID NOT RESTART UNTIL TURNED OFF THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND THEN IT RESTARTED IT. CONTINUED TO HAVE WARNING LIGHTS FOR SEVERAL HOURS. CALLED TOYOTA HOT LINE, AND WAS INFORMED IT WAS SAFE TO DRIVE. THE FOLLOWING MONDAY TOOK VEHICLE TO DEALER, WHO PLACED IT ON A COMPUTER AND NOTED IT WAS NORMAL. THEY THOUGHT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE VEHICLE STABILITY CONTROL BECAUSE THAT LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED, AND EARLIER WHEN THAT HAPPENED DRIVER SWERVED INTO A LANE. THE 2ND EPISODE OCCURRED AS ACCELERATING TO GET ON A FREEWAY RAMP AND HAD SLOWED TO ENTER TRAFFIC, ANOTHER DRIVER ALLOWED CONSUMER'S VEHICLE TO ENTER AND DRIVER ACCELERATED GAIN AND THE ENGINE CUT OFF. WAS ABLE TO DRIVE ON BATTERY POWER ABOUT A MILE GOING 40 MPH TO THE NEXT EXIT. PULLED OFF, AND AGAIN TURNED SYSTEM OFF, AND AGAIN THE ENGINE RESTARTED. THIS TIME THE VEHICLE,S STABILITY LIGHT DID NOT ILLUMINATE. THE DISPLAY SCREEN HAD A BAR THAT SAID, PROBLEM. WHEN CAR WAS TAKEN TO DEALER NO LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. *AK
DT: CONSUMER WAS APPROACHING AN INTERSECTION WHILE DRIVING IN A 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AT 45 MPH AND WHEN ALL OF THE DAS LIGHT ILLUMINATED. AS IT TURNED OUT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT RECEIVING ANY POWER FROM THE GAS ENGINE AND THE VEHICLE WAS RUNNING ON ELECTRICITY ONLY. WHILE ENTERING THE INTERSECTION THE VEHICLE STALLED. THE CONSUMER WAS ABLE TO PUT THE VEHICLE IN REVERSE TO BACK THE VEHICLE TO THE CURB. THEN , PUT VEHICLE IN PARK OR NEUTRAL ONLY, BUT WAS UNABLE TO SHUT THE POWER OFF. CONSUMER WAS UNABLE TO MOVE THE VEHICLE. AFTER LETTING THE VEHICLE SIT 35-40 MINUTES WAS ABLE TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE ONTO THE TOW TRUCK. VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO TOYOTA DEALERSHIP WHERE THEY RESET THE COMPUTER THE FOLLOWING DAY. DEALERSHIP TOLD CONSUMER THEY WERE SEEING THIS HAPPEN FREQUENTLY WITH THE 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS HYBRIDS. ALSO, MISSED 1 HOUR OF WORK THE FOLLOWING DAY IN ORDER TO GET A RENTAL CAR. *AK *TT *NM
MY 2004 PRIUS "DIED" WITH LITTLE WARNING WHILE I WAS DRIVING ABOUT 40 MPH ON A BUSY STREET. I COASTED TO A STOP WITH CARS FLYING BY ME. VERY DANGEROUS. CAR WAS TOWED TO THE DEALER, WHO EXPLAINED THERE WAS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM AND THEY REPROGRAMMED THE CAR'S COMPUTER. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS PROBLEM! I'M AFRAID TO DRIVE THIS CAR.
APPROACHING ENTRANCE RAMP TO I495 N EXIT 32 WESTFORD MA AT MODEST SIDE STREET SPEED 25-40 APPROXIMATELY. CAR RAPIDLY LOST ACCELERATION. CONTINUED FOR ABOUT ONE MINUTE ONTO THE INTERSTATE AND STALLED ON THE SHOULDER. BATTERY INDICATED SHOWED ONLY ONE BAR. GAS AT LEAST 1/3 FULL. ELECTRIC WINDOWS AND DISPLAYS AND LIGHTS WORKED. CERTAIN WARNING INDICATORS WERE LIT INCLUDING RED DANGER TRIANGLE. COULD NOT TURN OFF THE POWER OR REMOVE THE KEY. AFTER 20-25 MINUTES, WHILE WAITING FOR THE TOW TRUNK, I WAS ABLE TO POWER OFF AND ON AND THEN THE CAR STARTED AND I DROVE HOME (30 MILES). PERFORMANCE APPEARED NORMAL BUT THE RED TRIANGLE AND A FEW OTHER INDICATORS REMAINED LIT.
DT: A. HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED WAS THE CONSUMER DRIVING BEFORE THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? 4 MINUTES, 50 MPH. B. HAS THE CONSUMER ACCELERATED, DECELERATED OR DROVE AT A STEADY PACE WHEN THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? STEADY PACE. C. AFTER THE VEHICLE LOST POWER WAS THE DRIVER ABLE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE VEHICLE? IF SO, HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED. IT STALLED OUT. D. DID ANY WARNING LIGHTS APPEAR BEFORE AND/OR AFTER THE INCIDENT OCCURRED? IF SO, DESCRIBE THE LIGHTS THAT WERE LIT. AS IT HAPPENED A HAZARD ICON AND AN ENGINE CHECK LIGHT CAME ON. E. DID THE VEHICLE EVENTUALLY STALL AND COME TO A STOP? HOW LONG DID THIS OCCUR AFTER THE WARNING LIGHTS WERE LIT? YES, 30 SECONDS. F. WAS THE DRIVER ABLE TO RESTART THE VEHICLE RIGHT AFTER IT STALLED? IF SO, HOW LONG DID IT TOOK, 3-4 TIMES OR 2-3 MINUTES)? TOOK A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IT STARTED WITHIN A MINUTES. G. WAS DRIVER ABLE TO RESTART THE VEHICLE AFTER LETTING IT SIT AWHILE? YES. H. WAS THE VEHICLE TOWED? NO. I. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE? IT REQUIRED AN UPDATE OF A COMPUTER PROGRAM. J DID THE DEALER REPROGRAM THE ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT (ECU) OR ANY SOFTWARE? YES. K. VEHICLE HAD SPECIAL SERVICE CAMPAIGNS 40A OR 40D PERFORMED PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT? WHEN CONSUMER CALLED TOYOTA SHE WAS TOLD VEHICLE WAS UP TO DATE ON ALL SERVICES . L. HAD VEHICLE ANY PROBLEMS SINCE THE REPAIR? NO. CONSUMER HAD A PROBLEM SIX MONTHS AGO WHERE IT STALLED. . *AK
WHILE DRIVING AROUND TOWN AND SOME HIGHWAY, INTERMITTENTLY, THE BATTERY CHARGE LEVEL WILL DROP VERY LOW (ONE RED BAR), THE BATTERY WILL NOT CHARGE, AND THE CAR WILL LOOSE POWER. WHEN THE PRIUS HAS POWER LOSS, THE AVERAGE MPG DROPS FROM THE LOW 40'S TO THE LOW 30'S. THE CAR HAS NEVER STALLED AS PER CURRENT INVESTIGATION WITH '04 PRIUS, BUT, THE LOSS OF POWER ALMOST CAUSED AN ACCIDENT. I HAVE TAKEN THE CAR TO A TOYOTA DEALER 3 TIMES, THEY ARE UNABLE TO FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR. HAVE ALSO CONTACTED TOYOTA CORP AND ESCALATED, BUT, THEY MAINTAIN THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM. ALL SOFWARE TECHNICAL BULITENS AND ANY RECALLS HAVE ALL BEEN APPLIED
DT: THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS. HE STATES THAT VEHICLE LOST POWER WHILE TRAVELING AT HIGH SPEEDS.THE INCIDENT JUST HAPPENED ONE TIME. THE DEALER REPROGRAMMED THE VEHICLE, NOT SURE IF IT FIXED IT OR NOT.*AK CAR LOST POWER AND WOULD NOT RE-START. IT WAS TOWED TO TOYOTA SERVICE DEPARTMENT. ENGINE CONTROL UNIT WAS REPROGRAMMED AND CAR HAS SINCE RAN PROPERLY FOR 600 MILES.*SB *NM
DT: PROBLEMS BEGAN 5-10-05. SEVERAL WARNING LIGHTS APPEARED ON DASHBOARD. THE VEHICLE EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF POWER. THE ELECTRIC MOTOR AND THE BATTERY WERE WORKING CORRECTLY, HOWEVER, THE GAS PORTION OF THE ENGINE WAS NOT WORKING. DEALER REPORTED ECU WAS OUT OF CALIBRATION, AND WAS REPROGRAMMED. VEHICLE IS NOW REPAIRED. DRIVER VISITED A FORUM WHERE SHE NOTICED THERE WAS A REPORT IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AND SHE FELT UNSAFE DRIVING VEHICLE.*AK *SB *NM
DT: CONSUMER HAS TWO 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AND BOTH HAD ENGINE FAILURES WHILE GOING BETWEEN 30 AND 40 MPH. INCIDENT ON MAY 28, 2005 AND MAY 4, 2005 APPROXIMATELY.*AK NORTHBROOK TOYOTA REPROGRAMMED VEHICLE'S COMPUTER. CONSUMER STATES VEHICLE NOW PERFORMS OK. *TT *NM
DT: CONSUMER OWNS TWO 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS AND BOTH HAVE SHUT DOWN WHILE DRIVING. CONSUMER HAS TAKEN BOTH VEHICLES TO DEALER AND HAD THEM REPROGRAMMED. *TT NORTHBROOK TOYOTA REPROGRAMMED CARS COMPUTER, CAR IS OK FOR NOW. *SB *NM
DT: TOYOTA PRIUS, VEHICLE STALLED AT 35 MPH WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. PULLED OVER TO SIDE OF ROAD BECAUSE CALLER WAS LOSING POWER FROM BATTERY, AND COULD NOT DRIVE IT. CAR WAS TOWED TO DEALER, AND THEY COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. PROBLEM DID NOT COME UP ON CAR COMPUTER WHEN DIAGNOSTIC WAS DONE. MANUFACTURER HAS NOT BEEN CONTACTED YET. CALLER READ ARTICLE IN NEWSPAPER ABOUT PRIUS. *AK *NM
DT: A. HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED WAS THE CONSUMER DRIVING BEFORE THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? HAD BEEN DRIVING FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES GOING ABOUT 65 MPH. B. WAS THE CONSUMER ACCELERATING, DECELERATING, OR DRIVING AT A STEADY- STATE WHEN THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? OWNER BELIEVES SHE WAS SLOWING DOWN AT THE TIME OF STALL. C. AFTER THE VEHICLE LOST POWER, WAS THE DRIVER ABLE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE VEHICLE? IF SO, HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED? OWNER WAS AFRAID TO DRIVE IT, AND CALLED DEALERSHIP AND HAD IT TOWED. D. DID ANY WARNING LIGHTS APPEAR BEFORE AND/OR AFTER THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. IF SO, DESCRIBE THE LIGHTS THAT WERE LIT. ALL WARNING LIGHTS WERE ON AS IT STALLED. E.DID THE VEHICLE EVENTUALLY STALL AND COME TO A STOP? HOW LONG DID THIS OCCUR AFTER THE WARNING LIGHTS WERE LIT? THE VEHICLE DID STALL AND COME TO A STOP. VEHICLE STALLED, THEN LIT UP SECONDS AFTER STALLING. YES. F.WAS THE DRIVER ABLE TO RESTART THE VEHICLE RIGHT AFTER IT STALLED? G. WASS THE DRIVER ABLE TO RESTART THE VEHICLE AFTER LETTING IT SIT AWHILE? IF SO, HOW LONG WAS THIS AFTER THE VEHICLE STALLED? NO NO ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO RESTART BECAUSE IT WAS TOWED. H.WAS THE VEHICLE TOWED? YES. I.WHAT DID THE DEALER SAY WAS WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE? DEALER SAID THERE WAS A SOFTWARE GLITCH. DEALER REPROGRAMMED THE ECU (ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT) OR ANY SOFTWARE? YES. *AK *TT *NM
(1) ENGINE STALLED WHEN ACCELERATING FROM STOPLIGHT. WEATHER WAS COOL (LOW-50S) AND RAINY. DASHBOARD WARNING LIGHTS LIT UP ('RED TRIANGLE OF DEATH', CHECK ENGINE, BRAKING SYSTEM) (2) DRIVER PULLED TO SIDE OF ROAD USING ELECTRIC POWER ONLY (3) DRIVER CALLED HUSBAND, WHO ADVISED WIFE TO CYCLE THE POWER OFF AND ON, POSSIBLY MULTIPLE TIMES, UNTIL THE ENGINE RESTARTED. CYCLING POWER SUCCESSFULLY RESTARTED ENGINE, BUT 'RED TRIANGLE OF DEATH' AND CHECK ENGINE WARNING LIGHTS REMAINED LIT. CAR OPERATED NORMALLY THEREAFTER. DEALER APPLIED TSB EG047-04 AT NO CHARGE. PROBLEM HAS NOT RETURNED. SUSPECT THIS IS ANOTHER INSTANCE OF 'PRIUS STALLING' PROBLEM. GIVEN THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS (1), THE DEALER RESPONSE (SATISFACTORY) AND THE RECOVERABILITY FROM THE PROBLEM (POWER CYCLE), I CONSIDER THIS A MINOR PROBLEM. OTHERWISE HIGHLY SATISFIED WITH CAR.
CONSUMER STATED WHILE TRAVELING 40 MPH ALL OF A SUDDEN , THE LIGHTS ILLUMINATED ON THE DASHBOARD AND THEN EVERYTHING SHUT OFF. THE CONSUMER HAD THE VEHICLE TOWED TO THE DEALER AND THEY SAID IT WAS A COMPUTER GLITCH REGARDING THE RELEASE OF GAS TO THE ENGINE. JUST BEFORE A LOSS OF POWER THE DVD NAVIGATION SYSTEM WENT COMPLETELY OUT ABOUT 2 MILES BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE. *JB THE DVD NAVIGATION SYSTEM FAILED AS WELL. *SC
DT: 2004 TOYOTA PRIUS . THE WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON AND THE VEHICLE LOST POWER. THE VEHICLE CAME TO STOP ON THE FREEWAY. THE CONSUMER WAS ABLE TO GET TO THE SHOULDER AND WAITED ABOUT 10 MINUTES. AFTER THE TEN MIN THE VEHICLE WAS RESTARTED BUT HAD VERY LITTLE POWER. THE CONSUMER DROVE THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER. THE DEALER REPROGRAMMED THE ECU AS PER TSB. NO OTHER PROBLEMS AS OF YET. THIS FAILURE WAS THE ONLY INCIDENT. *JB *NM
THE CONSUMER STARTED THE VEHICLE AND NOTICED THAT THE STEERING WAS VERY DIFFICULT. AFTER DRIVING FOR TWO BLOCKS, THE DASH LIGHT HAD COME ON AND THE STEERING HAD BECOME EASIER. THE GENERAL WARNING SYMBOL HAD COME ON, WHICH MEANT THE VEHICLE NEEDED TO BE TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE BRAKE LIGHT HAD BEEN CONTINUOUSLY ON. WHEN THE EMERGENCY BRAKES WERE APPLIED, THE VEHICLE DID NOT BEHAVE AS IF IT WERE ACTIVATED. THE IGNITION RELAY WAS REPLACED PER WARNING LIGHT. *AK *JB
DT: WHILE DRIVING ABOUT 55-60 MPH THE CAR STALLED AND CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP. IT WAS TOWED INTO A DEALERSHIP, THEY LOOKED AT THE COMPUTER AND CORRECTED THE PROBLEM. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT STALLED SINCE.*AK *NM
DT:.HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED WAS THE CONSUMER DRIVING BEFORE THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? HAD DRIVEN ABOUT 10 MINUTES ON COMMUTING HOME WAS DRIVING AT LEAST 50-60 MPH. B.WAS THE CONSUMER ACCELERATING, DECELERATING, OR DRIVING AT A STEADY- STATE WHEN THE VEHICLE LOST POWER?DRIVING AT A STEADY STATE. C. VEHICLE LOST POWER, WAS THE DRIVER ABLE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE VEHICLE? IF SO, HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED?NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE DRIVING, COULD NOT RESTART VEHICLE. DID ANY WARNING LIGHTS APPEAR BEFORE AND/OR AFTER THE INCIDENT OCCURRED? AN ODD BEEP AND THEN SOME SYMBOLS ILLUMINATED ON CONTROL PANEL BUT CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT SYMBOL, THINKS IT MAKE HAVE BEEN A CAR WITH AN X THROUGH IT. REFERRED TO OWNERS MANUAL. CALLED FOR HELP. . CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP JUST SECONDS AFTER THE BEEP AND WARNING LIGHTS. F WAS UNABLE TO RESTART VEHICLE. G. NO RESTART WHATSOEVER. H. WAS THE VEHICLE TOWED? YES TO A DEALER. I.WHAT DID THE DEALER SAY WAS WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE? DIAGNOSIS CODE DID NOT HAVE AVAILABLE, BUT WAS AWARE OF SERVICE BULLETIN PERTAINING TO THIS ISSUE. QUESTIONED WHY THERE HAD NOT BEEN A RECALL. J. DID THE DEALER REPROGRAM THE ECU (ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT) OR ANY SOFTWARE? YES-THE ECU. K.DID HAVE RECALL ON NAVIGATION SOFTWARE UPDATE PRIOR TO THIS EPISODE. L. HAS THE VEHICLE HAD ANY PROBLEMS SINCE THE REPAIR? NO BUT FEARFUL IT MAY HAPPEN AGAIN. *AK
WHEN I STARTED MY VEHICLE, ALL THE DASH LIGHTS CAME ON AND REMAINED ON. I WAS ABLE TO PUT MY VEHICLE IN PARK AND NEUTRAL ONLY. I WAS UNABLE TO TURN THE POWER OFF ON THE VEHICLE. IT WAS USING ELECTRICITY ONLY. THE GAS ENGINE WOULD NOT KICK IN WHEN STEPPING ON THE GAS PEDAL. I LET THE CAR SIT FOR ABOUT 5 MINUTES THEN WAS ABLE TO TURN THE POWER OFF. I WAS THEN ABLE TO START THE CAR AGAIN AND DRIVE IT. I TRAVELED APPROXIMATELY 35 MILES WITHOUT INCIDENT. I THEN SHUT THE CAR OFF. I THEN TURNED THE CAR BACK ON AND THE SAME INCIDENT OCCURED FOR THE SECOND TIME THAT DAY. I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP THE FOLLOWING DAY TO REPORT THE INCIDENT. I WAS TOLD THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE VEHICLE SINCE IT WAS RUNNING OK NOW. THEY DID FAX ME A COPY SHOWING THAT I REPORTED THIS INCIDENT. THIS VEHICLE HAS NOW STALLED ON ME A TOTAL OF 3 TIMES WITHIN A 3 WEEK PERIOD. THE FIRST INCIDENT WAS ON 5/23/2005 AND I HAD TO HAVE MY CAR TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP.
DT: HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED WAS THE CONSUMER DRIVING BEFORE THE VEHICLE LOST POWER? HE WAS DRIVING FOR ABOUT 25 MINUTES AND 35 MPH AND THE WARNING LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. B. CONSUMER'S VEHICLE LOST POWER?/DECELERATED AND WAS GOING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN OFF A HIGHWAY AGAIN THE LIGHTS SIGNALED WARNING ,BUT CAR WAS STILL RUNNING. CALLED TOYOTA TO SEE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ANSWER AS TO WHAT THOSE SIGNALS WERE. TOYOTA TOLD TO CONTINUE DRIVING AND VEHICLE LOST POWER. AFTER DRIVING THE VEHICLE? IF SO, HOW LONG AND AT WHAT SPEED? WAS UNABLE TO CONTINUE DRIVING, HAD TO BE TOWED. CALLED TOYOTA ABOUT THE LIGHTS NOT APPEARING. WAS TOLD BY TOYOTA TO CONTINUE DRIVING, AND VEHICLE LOST POWER. *AK
2004 PRIUS HAD WARNING LIGHTS COME ON AND STALLED IN APRIL 2005. SOFTWARE UPGRADE WAS PERFORMED BY DEALER. WARNING LIGHTS HAVE COME ON AGAIN YESTERDAY, JUNE 12
2004 TOYOTA PRIUS-WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON INCLUDING GO TO A DEALER IMMEDIATELY WHICH I DID. PROPULSION POWER ALMOST VANISHED IN ONE MILE OF DRIVING. DEALER FIXED THE PROBLEM AT NO CHARGE SAYING THEY "REPROGRAM ENGINE ECU"
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