2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid complaints

"CHECK VSC SYSTEM" WHEN I TOOK MY CAR OUT THIS MORNING, I GOT A WARNING LIGHT SAYING "CHECK VSC SYSTEM". MY BRAKE LIGHT AND ABS LIGHTS ARE ALSO ON. THE CAR BRAKES WITH A JERK AND I AM SCARED TO DRIVE IT. THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN HAPPENING QUITE OFTEN. COMPLAINTS TO THE TOYOTA DEALER DID NOT HELP. AS PER HTTP://WWW.CONSUMERAFFAIRS.COM/NEWS/FEDS-INVESTIGATE-BRAKING-PROBLEMS-IN-TOYOTA-CAMRY-HYBRID-012814.HTML A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM AND HAVE COMPLAINED TO NHTSA. PLEASE HELP WITH A RECALL AS IT IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE THE CAR THIS WAY.

WHILE DRIVING ON A LOCAL STREET I NOTICED THE RED BRAKE LIGHT CAME ON AND THEN JUST A FEW SECONDS LATER MULTIPLE LIGHTS CAME ON, MASTER WARNING LIGHT, ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED BRAKE WARNING, ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM, SLIP INDICATOR, AND CHECK VSC SYSTEM AND I HAD NO BRAKING CAPABILITY. I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO GET THE CAR PULLED OFF OF THE ROAD SO I TURNED OFF THE CAR AND THEN TURNED IT ON AGAIN AND THE SAME LIGHTS WERE STILL ON. I TURNED IT OFF AGAIN AND AFTER A FEW MINUTES I TURNED IT BACK ON AND THE LIGHTS WERE NOT ON AND EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL. BRAKING SYSTEM WAS WORKING AGAIN. THIS HAS HAPPENED 3 TIMES IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS AND NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS CAR IS NO LONGER SAFE TO DRIVE. *JS

ALL THE DASHBOARD BRAKE LIGHT CAME ON, AND A COUPLE OF SECONDS LATER ALL THE SYSTEM WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON. THE BRAKES BECAME HARD TO PUSH AS IF THEY WERE FIGHTING ME. AFTER ABOUT 5 MINUTES THE LIGHTS WENT OFF AND THE BRAKES FELT NORMAL AGAIN. THIS OCCURRED WHILE I WAS DRIVING TODAY. THE BIGGER WORRY IS THAT IT HAPPENED TEN DAYS AGO ALSO. ONCE ON A CITY STREET AND ONCE ON THE INTERSTATE. I TOOK THE CAR TO TWO DIFFERENT SHOPS (ONE WAS A TOYOTA DEALERSHIP IN MARIETTA, GEORGIA) AND THEY BOTH RAN DIAGNOSTICS AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG. BUT I HAVE AN UNSAFE CAR WITH BRAKE PROBLEMS!

I WAS DRIVING WHEN THE CHECK VSC WARNING CAME ON AS WELL AS THE INDICATOR WARNING LIGHT, THE BRAKE WARNING LIGHT, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT AND THE VSC WARNING LIGHT. ALL THE LIGHTS REMAINED ON UNTIL I REACHED MY DESTINATION. THE BRAKE SYSTEM MADE A STRANGE "GRUNTING" NOISE WHEN THE BRAKES WERE DEPRESSED BUT THE BRAKES SEEMED TO FUNCTION PROPERLY. THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON WHEN THE CAR WAS RESTARTED AND LESS THAN HALFWAY ON THE RETURN TRIP, WENT OFF. THERE HAS BEEN NO NOTICEABLE LOSS OF BRAKING. ON THE 21ST OF THE MONTH THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON AND HAVE NOT GONE OFF. THE ABS PUMP ACTUATOR APPEARS TO BE CYCLING VERY QUICKLY.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID. WHILE DRIVING AT 45 MPH, THE BRAKES WERE DEPRESSED BUT FAILED TO COMPLETELY STOP THE VEHICLE. ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS WERE ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE BRAKE RESERVOIR FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 144,000.

FIRST OF ALL IT STARTED MAKING LOUD SQUEELING NOISE WHEN I WOULD REVERSE USE THE BREAKS ..... THEN THE OTHER DAY AS I WAS DRIVING LIKE NORMAL ALL DAY AND I CAME TO A MERGE LANE TO TURN ONTO THE MAIN STREET TURNING TO THE RIGHT I WAS BEHIND A COP SO HE WENT THEN I WENT AS SOON AS I STARTED MAKING THE TURN ALL THE LIGHTS TURNED ON THE BREAK WENT HARD AND THE STEERING WHEEL WAS HARD TO MOVE SO I HAD TO SWEARVE AND PULL OVER TILL THE VEHICLE FINALLY CAME TO A STOP I PUT IT IN PARK THEN TURNED IT OFF AND ON AND THE WARNING LIGHTS TURNED OFF AND AFTER A FEW MINS DROVE LIKE NORMAL . THEN THIS HAPPEND AGAIN YESTERDAY TO MY SON HERE'S HIS STORY: WHEN I WAS DRIVING HOME FROM WORK I WAS COMING TO A FOUR WAY STOP THEM ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE LIGHTS CAME ON THE DASH BOARD THE BREAKS GOT HARD AND THE STEERING WHEEL TOO AND I HAD TO SWERVE TO NOT HIT THE GREEN TRUCK IN FRONT OF ME THEN IT BARLEY MADE IT HOME. AS OF THIS MORNING I TRIED STARTING IT REVERSING IT AND IT WON'T MOVE ALL THE LIGHTS ARE STILL ON THE VCS CHECK SYSTEM IS ON AND IT WON'T TURN OFF OR MOVE . PLEASE HELP!

I WAS DRIVING TO WORK IN THE MORNING AND WHILE ON THE FREEWAY, MY BRAKES SUDDENLY DID NOT WORK. EVERY LIGHT ON THE DASH TURNED ON AND IT SAID "CHECK VSC SYSTEM" IT HAS NOW HAPPENED THREE TIMES AND I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE MY VEHICLE. I SEARCHED ONLINE AND SAW THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE SO I FEEL IT'S A DEFECT AND THERE SHOULD BE A RECALL.

CHECK VSC SYSTEM COMES ON, THE BRAKE BECOMES VERY HARD AND LIGHTS SUCH AS ABS AND OTHERS COME UP ON THE DASHBOARD WHILE IN MOTION.

I HAD TO REPLACE TODAY MY BRAKE ACTUATOR AND BLEED BRAKES BECAUSE STARTED IN ONE WEEK AGO, EVERY TIME I STEPPED IN MY BRAKE MADE NOISE LIKE WHEN YOU HONK FOR SOMEBODY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF TOYOTA HAD A RECALL ABOUT THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY DID AND I PAID $1.800 FOR A PROBLEM I THINK THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THIS PROBLEM IN MY CAR

WHILE DRIVING UNDER 45 MPH ON A STRAIGHT SUBURBAN PAVED ROAD, MY BRAKE LIGHT CAME ON THEN OFF THEN ON AGAIN DIRECTLY FOLLOWED BY ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS COMING ON AND THE DISPLAY SHOWED "CHECK VCS SYSTEM". I WAS ENTERING A TURN LANE BEHIND ANOTHER VEHICLE AND QUICKLY REALIZED THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS NOT WORKING. I HAD NO BRAKES! I HAD ALREADY PUT THE CAR INTO THE ENGINE BRAKE MODE WHICH HELPED SLOW MY VEHICLE. I SLAMMED DOWN ON THE BRAKE PEDAL AS HARD AS I COULD AND SWERVED AWAY FROM THE CAR IN FRONT OF ME TO AVOID HITTING THEM. AFTER SUCCESSFULLY PULLING OVER AND TO A STOP, I TURN THE VEHICLE OFF AND WAITED FOR A FEW MINUTES. I TURNED THE CAR BACK ON AND ALL THE LIGHTS AND CHECK VCS SYSTEM WAS STILL DISPLAYED FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS. I HEARD A SMALL CLICK AND ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS TURNED OFF AND THE CAR AND BRAKES WERE BACK TO NORMAL. I AM HONESTLY NOW AFRAID TO DRIVE MY OWN CAR FOR FEAR OF NOT KNOWING WHEN AND IF THAT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE MANUFACTURER FOR A SERVICE CAMPAIGN TO ADDRESS THE INTERNAL MALFUNCTION OF THE BRAKE ACTUATOR ASSEMBLY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER MORE THAN THREE TIMES FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE DEALER WAS NOT ABLE TO REMEDY THE FAILURE WITH THE MANUFACTURER'S SERVICE CAMPAIGN ZE1. AFTER THE REPAIR, THE SERVICE ENGINE SOON WARNING LIGHT, ABS WARNING LIGHT, TRACTION CONTROL WARNING LIGHT, AND SLIP INDICATOR CONTINUED TO RANDOMLY FLASH AND REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THE PUSH BUTTON START WOULD NOT PROPERLY FUNCTION INTERMITTENTLY AND THE CONTACT WAS NOT ABLE TO START THE VEHICLE NUMEROUS TIMES WITHOUT WARNING. THE MANUFACTURER WAS ALSO NOTIFIED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE SERVICE CAMPAIGN DID NOT PREVENT THE FAILURE FROM OCCURRING. THE VEHICLE WAS TO BE TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER FOR FURTHER TESTING. THE CONTACT WAS WAITING ON INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO PROVIDE A PERMANENT REMEDY FOR THE CONDITION TO ADDRESS THE FAILURE AND RECEIVED NO RESOLUTION. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 126,355.

WHILE DRIVING ON CITY STREET, CHECK VSC SYSTEM WARNING APPEARED ALONG WITH CHECK ENGINE/STABILITY/ANTILOCK BRAKE WARNING LIGHTS. VEHICLE DID NOT LOSE BRAKING COMPLETELY BUT DID NOT FEEL NORMAL AND WAS BROUGHT TO SIDE OF ROAD. AFTER RESTART WAS LIGHTS CLEARED AND HAS BEHAVED NORMALLY SO FAR. BROUGHT TO DEALER NEXT DAY, UNABLE TO FIND PROBLEM.

DRIVING AT 40 MPH, CHECK VSC SYSTEM, BRAKE, TRACTION , WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON SIMULTANEOUSLY, VEHICLE EXPERIENCED IMMEDIATE LOSS OF BRAKES AND POWER STEERING. NEEDED TO USE EMERGENCY BRAKING AND DOWN SHIFT TO BRING CAR TO COMPLETE STOP. WAS ON SUBURBAN AREA PAVED ROAD AND WAS GOING STRAIGHT.

WHILES DRIVING THE ABS LIGHT CAME ON , THE CAUTION LIGHTS CAME ON AND BRAKE LIGHT CAME ON AT THE SAME TIME. THE BRAKES FELT REALLY ODD. IT PULSATES. THE ALARM SAYS CHECK THE VSC SYSTEM

TODAY MORNING I SAW MY 2007 CAMRY HYBRID REPORTING " CHECK VSC SYSTEM" "CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM" ON THE DASHBOARD. I THE BREAKING SEEMS TO BE HARD. I DONT SEE MY VEHICLE IN THE RECALL LIST THOUGH BUT VEHICLE HAS A ISSUE. THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT DOES LET ME DETAIL THE PROCESS AND IS HELPING ME ANYWAY. ABREAST ME THE PROCEDURE TO TAKE IT UP FURTHER WITH TOYOTA.

I STARTED MY CAR THIS MORNING AND A MESSAGE THAT SAID CHECK VSC SYSTEM APPEARED. THE BRAKE LIGHT AND MASTER WARNING LIGHTS ALSO APPEARED. I STARTED TO GO OUT THE DRIVE WAY AND COULD NOT PRESS THE BRAKES. IT WAS A LITTLE JUMPY AND THE BRAKES ARE HARD TO PRESS NOW.

WHILE DRIVING ON FREEWAY CAR LOST SOME BRAKING POWER AND SLIGHT PULSING COULD BE FELT WHEN PRESSING ON BRAKES. AT THE SAME TIME THE DASH LIGHTS ALL LIT UP; EMERGENCY BRAKE LIGHT, ABS LIGHT, WARNING LIGHTS, AND SCREEN SAID CHECK VSC SYSTEM. PRIOR TO SYSTEM FAILING EMERGENCY BRAKE LIGHT WOULD RANDOMLY TURN ON... VERY SCARY WHEN DRIVING 65 MPH. ALSO AT SLOWER SPEEDS, IT IS DIFFICULT TO APPLY ADEQUATE PRESSURE ON THE BRAKE PEDAL TO STOP NORMALLY.

ON MAY 8TH 2015 , I WAS TAKING A TRAFFIC IN A CURB ON IRVINGTON AVE NEWARK NJ THE STEERING WHEEL STUCK AND I COULD NOT HAVE ANY BREAK SO THEN THE CAR GOES STRAIGHT WITH ME TO A POT LIGHT,I HAVE SERIOUS INJURIES IN MY CHEST AND LOWER BACK, MY CAR IS COMPLETELY BROKEN( DRIER'S FENDER,FRONT LIGHT,RADIATOR, SUPPORT RADIATOR, LOWER ARM CONTROL , WATER PUMP,WOOD,WHEELS,BUMPER ETC...AND THE REST OF THE NAME THAT I DON'T REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING WEEK ,I CONTACTED TOYOTA ; THEY OPENED A CLAIM UNTIL 30 DAYS AND ABOUT ANOTHER 60 DAYS AFTER INSPECTED MY CAR THEY SENT A LETTER AND THEY TOLD ME THEY CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR ME ;THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR.PLEASE HELP ME CAUSE THE NEEDS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE FIXED.

WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON LEVEL GROUND WITH THE FOOT LIGHTLY ON THE ACCELERATOR, A WARNING BELL AND VARIOUS WARNING LIGHTS WENT OFF (INCLUDING ABS AND CHECK VSC SYSTEM). WHEN I PUT ON THE BRAKES I HAD TO PUSH MUCH HARDER THAN USUAL IN ORDER TO SLOW THE VEHICLE. THESE CONDITIONS CONTINUED FOR THREE MILES, AT WHICH POINT THE WARNING SIGNALS DISCONTINUED AND THE BRAKING RETURNED TO NORMAL. BOTH AN INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOP AND THE LOCAL TOYOTA DEALER DID NOT FIND ERROR CODES OR IDENTIFY A CAUSE FOR WHAT I EXPERIENCED. THE DEALER INSTALLED A NEW BRAKE FLUID RESERVOIR AS PART OF A LIMITED SERVICE CAMPAIGN. IT WOULD NOT, HOWEVER, INSTALL A NEW BRAKE ACTUATOR ASSEMBLY OR BRAKE STROKE SENSOR AS PART OF THE ZE1 WARRANTY ENHANCEMENT SINCE IT DID NOT FIND ERROR CODES. TOYOTA'S NATIONAL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE CENTER WOULD ALSO NOT AUTHORIZE THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE PARTS DUE TO A LACK OF ERROR CODES. SIX MONTHS AND 5000 MILES LATER THE PROBLEM HAS NOT HAPPENED AGAIN. UPDATED 09/06/16*LJ UPDATED 11/27/2017*CN

I WAS DOING ABOUT 55 ON THE BELTWAY ON 6/23/15. I WENT TO SLOW DOWN THE CAR AS THE TRAFFIC WAS BEGINNING TO BACK UP. THE BRAKES FAILED AND I WAS ABLE TO STEER ONTO THE SHOULDER AND LET IT COAST UNTIL FINALLY THE BRAKES STARTED TO WORK AGAIN.

THE TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID SHOWS THE "CHECK VSC SYSTEM" MESSAGE ON THE DASHBOARD WITH THE BRAKE, HAZARD, WARNING, AND ABS LIGHTS. UPON RESEARCH IT SEEMS LIKE A KNOWN TOYOTA ISSUE WITH THEIR FAULTY ABS ACCUMULATOR. THE REPLACEMENT COST IS A STAGGERING $2500+ QUOTED BY THE DEALERS. WITHOUT REPLACING IT AFFECTS THE BRAKE SYSTEMS. THERE IS PULSATING IN THE BRAKES. THERE IS ALSO WATER PUMP LEAK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THIS SHOULD BE HANDLED BY TOYOTA WITH A RECALL. THERE ARE LOTS OF REPORTING FOR THIS SAME ISSUE AND FIXING THIS ISSUE IS SO COSTLY AND FOR A KNOW FAILED/FAULY COMPONENT.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKE PEDAL EXTENDED TO THE FLOOR WHEN IT WAS DEPRESSED AND THE STOPPING DISTANCE INCREASED. THE CONTACT INDICATED THAT THE BRAKE AND ABS SENSORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 175,232.

CHECK VSC SYSTEM WARNING CAME ON ALONG WITH BRAKE AND OTHER WARNING ICONS. HAVE NOTICED THAT THIS IS A MORE THAN NORMAL PROBLEM FOR 2007 CAMRY HYBRIDS.

THE HYBRID BATTERY OVERHEATED ACCORDING TO THE SHOP OF THE DEALER. ACCORDING TO THE MECHANIC THIS IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM WITH THE CAR. THE WARRANTY IS 8 YEARS OR 100,000 MILES ON HYBRID BATTERY. THE MECHANIC STATED THAT THE FRONT FILTER ALLOWS DIRT INTO THE HYBRID BATTERY COMPARTMENT, WHICH RESULTS IN THE OVERHEATING. IT IS A $3,900.00 COST TO REPLACE THE HYBRID BATTERY. THE MECHANIC ALSO STATES THAT THE NEW FILTER HAS BEEN MODIFIED IN ORDER TO NOT ALLOW THE DEBRIS TO GET INTO THE HYBRID BATTERY. IF TOYOTA WAS AWARE TO THE POINT OF MODIFYING THE FILTER IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE DEBRIS FROM GETTING INTO THE HYBRID BATTERY AREA WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL ME THAT THE FILTER WAS DEFECTIVE AND NEEDED REPLACED TO PROTECT THE HYBRID BATTERY?

THE HYBRID BATTERY OVERHEATED ACCORDING THE MECHANIC AT THE DEALERSHIP. THE MECHANIC STATED THAT OTHER HYBRID BATTERIES HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM BECAUSE OF A DEFECTIVE FILTER AT THE FRONT OF THE CAR, WHICH ALLOWS DEBRIS AND DIRT TO GET INTO THE COMPARTMENT THAT HOUSES THE HYBRID BATTERY. IT IS A $3,900 COST TO REPLACE THE HYDRID BATTERY SINCE IT IS NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY WITH 200,000 MILES ON THE CAR. THE MECHANIC STATED THAT TOYOTA HAD MODIFIED THE NEW FILTER TO STOP THE DEBRIS AND OVERHEATING PROBLEM, AND THAT THE NEW FILTER WOULD NOT ALLOW DEBRIS IN. SINCE TOYOTA WAS AWARE OF THE FILTER ALLOWING DEBRIS INTO THE HYDRID BATTERY DEPARTMENT, AND MODIFIED THE NEW FILTER TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM WHY WAS I NOT NOTIFIED TO REPLACE THE FILTER BEFORE IT ALLOWED THE BATTERY TO OVERHEAT THE HYBRID BATTERY TO BE DESTROYED?

I WAS JUST LEAVING MY HOUSE AND APPROACHING A STOP SIGN. AS I ENGAGED TO BRAKES NOTHING HAPPENED AND OUT OF NOWHERE THE CAR MAKES A HARD STOP AND MY DASH LIGHTS UP WITH WARNING LIGHTS. INSTANTLY NOTHING ABOUT THIS CAR SEEMS SAFE!

I HAD TAKEN THE CAR IN FOR AN OIL CONSUMPTION TEST. WHILE I WAS THERE I WAS ADVISED OF A BULLETIN STATING AN BRAKE RESERVOIR TANK NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. WHEN I GOT THE CAR BACK EVERYTHING SEEM FINE. THE NEXT DAY I HEARD WHAT I WOULD CALL A CHIRPING COMING FROM INSIDE THE ENGINE DEPARTMENT. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEE WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM AT THAT TIME. I CHECKED IT LATER THE NEXT DAY, BUT COULDN'T GET IT TO ACT UP. AGAIN, THE NEXT DAY I HEARD IT AGAIN. IT TOOK SEVERAL DAYS FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT ONLY SHOWED UP WHEN THE BRAKES WERE DEPRESSED. I WAITED TO TAKE CARE OF IT SINCE I KNEW I WAS GOING TO TAKE THE CAR BACK FOR THE OIL CONSUMPTION TEST AND IT WAS ONLY A NOISE. ON 2/7/15 I TOOK IT BACK TO THE DEALER. THEY TOLD ME IT WAS A FAULTY ACTUATOR AND IT WOULD COST $1447.39 TO REPAIR. I WENT ON LINE REGARDING THE PROBLEM WITH THE RESERVOIR. IT STATES "ANALYSIS OF THE FAILURE DATA INDICATE THAT EACH CONDITION PROVIDES WARNING PRIOR TO ANY REDUCTION IN POWER ASSISTED BRAKING, WITH LESS THAN 10 PERCENT OF ALL REPORTS AND CLAIMS INVOLVING DIAGNOSTIC CODES OR COMPLAINT NARRATIVES INDICATING INCREASED BRAKING EFFORT OR REDUCED BRAKE EFFECTIVENESS. IN ADDITION, MOST OF THE INCIDENTS IN WHICH REDUCED BRAKING ASSIST APPEARS TO HAVE OCCURRED INVOLVED OPERATION IN A REDUCED ASSIST MODE AND NOT A SUDDEN, COMPLETE LOSS OF POWER ASSISTED BRAKING". IN THOSE CASES THEY WILL REPLACE THE ACTUATOR. I FEEL THIS WAS CAUSED BY BY THE RESERVOIR BEING REPLACED. I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM UNTIL THIS WA

DRIVING TODAY WITH MY SON IN THE CAR I LOST ALL BRAKE POWER. UNABLE TO USE THE BRAKES THEN MOMENTS LATER IT RETURNED.

WHEN BRAKING FOR A YELLOW STOPLIGHT. I LOST ALL BRAKES AND BRAKE PRESSURE. SEVERAL INDICATOR LIGHTS INCLUDING THE ABS LIGHT AS WELL AS A MESSAGE "CHECK VSC SYSTEM". THERE WERE NO VEHICLES NEXT TO ME SO I WAS ABLE TO CHANGE LANES TO CLEAR TRAFFIC IN ONCOMING TURN LANES AND PASS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION SAFELY. THE BRAKES REENGAGED AT THE NEXT APPLICATION OF THE BRAKE. WE DROVE THE VEHICLE HOME AND THE EVENT OCCURRED AT EACH STOP, APPROX 10 OCCURRENCES, DEPRESSING THE BRAKE AND FAILING WITH THE ERRORS ABOVE THEN REDEPRESSING TO ENGAGE THE SYSTEM. *TR

THE HYBRID BATTERY MALFUNCTIONED AND NEEDS REPLACED AFTER ONLY 90K MILES. *TR

BRAKING WENT VERY SOFT. CHECK VSC SYSTEM WARNING MESSAGE APPEARED ALONG WITH MULTIPLE DASH LIGHT AND ADDITIONAL ERROR MESSAGE TO CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM. *TR

I WAS BACKING UP IN MY DRIVEWAY, TURNING THE VEHICLE AROUND. THE CHECK VSC WARNING MESSAGE CAME ON AS WELL AS THE ABS WARNING LIGHT AND ANOTHER RED EXCLAMATION POINT. THE BRAKES CEASED WORKING PROPERLY, JERKING WITH EVEN THE LIGHTEST TOUCH, AND NOT WORKING AT ALL FOR A FEW SCARY SECONDS, AND THEN SUDDENLY JERKING AS IF THEY HAD BEEN SLAMMED ON HARD. AFTER DRIVING THE VEHICLE DOWN OUR ROADWAY FOR A HALF MILE, WE CONCLUDED THAT THE BRAKES WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS AS THE CONDITION DID NOT CHANGE. *TR

CHECK VSC WARNING INDICATOR CAME ON WHEN DRIVING MY 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID THIS AFTERNOON. WHEN THAT WAS ON, MY CAR WAS DRAGGING AS IF THE EMERGENCY BRAKES WERE ON. SO I DROVE VERY SLOW WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE, IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET HOME SINCE I WAS ONLY A FEW MILES FROM WHERE I LIVED. IN ABOUT 5-7 MINUTES, WHEN I HAD STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT, THIS WARNING WENT OFF AND THE CAR WORKED AS IT NORMALLY HAS. WHEN I GOT HOME AND GOOGLED THIS FOR MY CAR, A NUMBER OF ARTICLES CAME UP ABOUT A POSSIBLE RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE FOR 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRIDS. CAN YOU PLEASE ADVISE ON THE STATUS OF THE POSSIBLE RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE WITH THIS CAR? *TR

WHEN I WAS DRIVING AT 65 MPH..THE CHECK VSC SYSTEM WARNING CAME ON. THIS HAPPENED ABOUT 1 MONTH AGO. I THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT BECAUSE IT WENT OFF AFTER I STARTED THE CAR AGAIN...SO 3 WEEKS LATER IT COMES ON AGAIN AND GOES OFF. WHEN IT CANE ON THE BRAKES DIDN'T WORK AS WELL, AND ALL OF THE WARNING LIGHTS WERE ON. YESTERDAY ON 3/25/2015 IT CAME ON AND HAS NOW STAYED ON. THE BRAKES ARE WORKING CORRECTLY, HOWEVER, I KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG. I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THIS ISSUE AND FOUND OUT THAT TOYOTA IS ASSISTING WITH FIXING THIS ISSUE. M Y NEXT STEP IS TO CALL THEM. *TR

ON 20 MARCH 2015, WHILE STARTING THE CAR, A WARNING INDICATOR SHOWED UP ON MY INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE INDICATOR STATED ( CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM.....VSC SYSTEM ). I PARKED THE CAR FOR THE DAY. DAY 2, I TOOK THE CAR TO A AUTO SHOP AND HAD A BASIC SCAN THAT READS ABS CODES PERFORMED ON THE CAR. THE BASIC SCAN REVELED TO "REPLACE BATTERY PACK". TWO MECHANICS INFORMED ME WHILE PERFORMING THE SCAN, A BURNING ODOR WAS OBSERVED FROM THE CAR. I DROVE THE CAR HOME AND PARKED IT. I LASTLY OBSERVED THE ONLY INFORMATION DISPLAYED FROM THE INSTRUMENT PANEL WAS " CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM". THE ONLY LIGHTS ON WERE THE WARNING LIGHT AND THE ENGINE LIGHT. *TR

"CHECK VSC SYSTEM" . BRAKE SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY. MUST PUSH VERY HARD TO GET ANY BRAKING. THEN THE VSC WILL ENGAGE AND BRAKE VERY HARD. I EXPERIENCED THIS ONE WEEK AGO; MY WIFE EXPERIENCED IT THIS MORNING DROPPING OF THE KIDS TO SCHOOL. THE CAR HAS A VERY DANGEROUS JERKING ACTION AS THE BRAKES ENGAGE AND DISENGAGE BASED ON THE COMPUTER. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKE SYSTEM FAILED TO ENGAGE WHILE ATTEMPTING TO STOP. THE DRIVER HAD TO SHIFT GEARS INTO REVERSE AND NEUTRAL IN ORDER TO REDUCE SPEED. ALSO, THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO ENGAGE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE WHICH FAILED TO ENGAGE. THE DRIVER WAS ABLE TO MERGE TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS RESTARTED AND RESUMED NORMAL FUNCTIONED. THE FAILURE WAS EXPERIENCED SEVERAL TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE TECHNICIAN DIAGNOSED THAT THE ABS MODULE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. IN ADDITION, THE CONTACT MENTIONED THAT THE BRAKE FLUID RESERVOIR WAS REPLACED UNDER A MANUFACTURER CAMPAIGN. HOWEVER, THE FAILURE WAS NOT CORRECTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 97,000. ## VIN PASSED ## TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID ##

WHILE DRIVING MY CAR LOST ALL BRAKING CAPABILITIES WITH "CHECK VSC SYSTEM" MESSAGE ON INSTRUMENT PANEL, ABS LIGHT, PARKING BRAKE LIGHT, TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT, ENGINE LIGHT, WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. FORTUNATELY, I WAS ABLE TO PULL CAR OFF OF THE ROAD AND INTO A PARKING LOT. I WAITED SEVERAL HOURS AND TRIED AGAIN TO START THE CAR TO TAKE TO TOYOTA FOR SERVICE. THE CAR RAN JUST FINE DRIVING TO TOYOTA AND NOW THEY ARE REFUSING TO FIX BECAUSE IT WILL NOT REPEAT THE ISSUE. I TOLD THEM OF WARRANTY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM ZE1 WHICH INDICATES THE PROBLEM WITH THE CAR, THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO FIX STILL. THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE THAT WILL KILL SOMEONE EVENTUALLY. IF I AM IN AN ACCIDENT CAUSED BY THIS ISSUE WITH TOYOTA NOT WILLING TO FIX, I WILL BE FILING LAWSUIT. GOD HELP ME BECAUSE I HAVE TWO SMALL KIDS THAT RIDE IN MY CAR OFTEN. *TR

I STARTED TO FEEL STICKY SPOTS ON THE TOP-SIDE DASHBOARD FACING WINDSHIELD. THE SOFT, STICKY SPOTS WERE ACCUMULATING LIGHT-COLORED DUST OVER THE PAST YEAR. THEY WERE NOT GREASY, BUT EXTREMELY STICKY AND TACKY TO THE TOUCH. THE ACCUMULATED DUST WAS NOT CLEANABLE OR ABLE TO BE REMOVED WITHOUT DAMAGING DASHBOARD MATERIAL. (I RUBBED OFF THE TOP LAYER OF PLASTIC TRYING TO GENTLY CLEAN WITH A WET POLY TOWEL). THEY WERE STARTING TO REFLECT OFF MY WINDSHIELD DURING DAYTIME DRIVING. I IGNORED THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE BUT LATELY NOTICED THE INTERIOR GLARE IS GETTING WORSE TOWARD THE FRONT OF MY DASHBOARD AT THE WINDSHIELD JUNCTION. IT'S ESPECIALLY PRESENT ON BRIGHT DAYS WHERE THE SUN IS HIGH UP. THIS IS PRESENTING A POTENTIALLY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO OUTWARD DRIVING VISIBILITY. TOYOTA HAS BEEN CONTACTED AND I STARTED A PROBLEM CASE WITH THEM. I AM AWAITING FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT TOYOTA WANTS TO DO NEXT WITH MY VEHICLE. A SPECIAL "WARRANTY ENHANCEMENT" HAS BEEN STARTED TO ADDRESS THIS "COSMETIC CONCERN." PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS POTENTIALLY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE TO ENSURE TOYOTA IS ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM APPROPRIATELY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY FOR OWNERS. *TR

WHILE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY IAN'S THE BRAKES FAILED TO APPLY NO PRESSURE. EMERGENCY LIGHTS TURN ONWAIT ABOUT 10 MINUTES THERE AND TURN THE CAR BACK ON AND IT STARTED WORKING AGAIN. CALL MY LOCAL TOYOTA DEALER SAID IT WILL COST 1500 DOLLARS TO FIX . DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. *TR

I WAS DRIVING MY CAR GOING TO WORK I WAS GOING 30 MPH WHEN WITH OUT ANY EXPLANATION A BRAKE RED WARNING LIGHT POP UP IN THE SCREEN ON MY 2007 TOYOTA HYBRID I TRY TO PUT THE BRAKES AND THEY WERE NOT WORKING I BEGGING TO PANIC THANKS GOD I DO NOT ENTER THE HIGHWAY AND I WAS ABLE TO PULL TO A MECHANIC SHOP THAT WAS VERY CLOSED. THE MECHANIC CHECK THE BRAKES IN THE CAR AND EVERY LOOKS GOOD HE SAID I TOLD HIM WHAT ARE YOU TAKING ABOUT THE BRAKES WHERE NOT WORKING I EXPLAIN AND THEN I REMEMBER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I GOT A RECALL IN THE MAIL AND GIVE TO MECHANIC AND HE EXPLAIN TO ME THAT I HAVE TO TAKE THE CAR TO THE DEALER RIGHT AWAY. I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE THIS CAR I CONTACT THE TOYOTA HEAD QUARTERS AND THEY SAID THEY WILL FIXED FOR FREE THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS MANY OF THIS CARS IN THE ROADS WE DRIVE ALL CHILDREN IN THESE CARS. THEY RECALL SHOULD SAY TAKE YOU CAR TO THE DEALER RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE YOU CAN INJURED YOURSELF O SOMEBODY MANY LIVES WILL BE SAFE IN THIS COMPANIES BUILT THEIR CARS PAYING MORE ATTENTION SPECIALLY TO THE BRAKES. I AM VERY CONCERN ABOUT THIS ISSUE. TODAY ALL I HAVE TO SAY I THANK GOD THAT I AM ALIVE AND I DO NOT INJURED MYSELF OR ANY OTHER PERSON. *JS

MY DAUGHTER WAS DRIVING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BRAKE PEDAL STARTED TO HAVE DIFFICULTY BRAKING. THERE WAS A THUMP OF SOME SORT IN THE FEEL OF THE BRAKE PEDAL WHEN BEING DEPRESSED. THE NEXT MORNING WHEN STARTING THE CAR, THERE WAS AN ERROR MESSAGE DISPLAYED SAYING "CHECK VSC SYSTEM WITH CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM ALTERNATING. THESE MESSAGES ALONG WITH THE CHECK ENGINE, TRACTION CONTROL AND SEVERAL OTHER LIGHTS LIT UP AND REMAINED ON. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO THIS CAR AND AFTER SEARCHING THE INTERNET I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THIS IS A VERY COMMON, DANGEROUS AND EXPENSIVE PROBLEM WITH THE TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRIDS. FROM MANY SIMILAR STORIES I HAVE READ, TOYOTA AND TOYOTA DEALERS RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE AS A KNOWN PROBLEM AND IF THEY ARE SO AWARE THERE SHOULD BE A SUITABLE RESOLUTION OFFERED ALONG WITH A RECALL FOR ALL TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID OWNERS SO OUR LIVES WILL NOT BE IN DANGER. DELAYING FIXING THIS ISSUE WILL EVENTUALLY COST SOMEONE THEIR LIFE. *TR

AS I WAS TRAVELING ON A HIGHWAY THE ABS WENT OUT AND ALMOST ALL BRAKE AND STABILITY CONTROL LIGHTS CAME ON AND I LOST ALMOST ALL BRAKING AND STABILITY CONTROL OF THE CAR. I WAS LATER TOLD BY THE DEALER THAT THE ABS ACTUATOR HAD GONE OUT AND NEEDED TO BE CHANGED ($1500). IT TURNS OUT THAT TOYOTA IS AWARE OF THIS VERY DANGEROUS ISSUE AND ARE NOT ISSUING A RECALL. I WAS TOLD THAT THEYRE OFFERING AN WARRANTY EXTENSION IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO ASK FOR SINCE THEY DON'T VOLUNTEER THE INFORMATION. I CAN'T STRESS HOW DANGEROUS OF A SITUATION THIS HAS LEFT ME WHILE DRIVING AT HIGH SPEEDS. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE BUT NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HERE'S ALSO A REPORT BY CONSUMER REPORTS MAGAZINE FROM JULY 2014 THAT OUTLINES THE ISSUE: HTTP://WWW.CONSUMERREPORTS.ORG/CRO/NEWS/2014/07/WHY-TOYOTA-SHOULD-RECALL-THE-CAMRY-HYBRID/INDEX.HTM. *TR

SUDDENLY,THE CHECK VSC SYSTEM WENT ON FOR NO REASON.I BELIEVE THAT TOYOTA IS TO BLAME FOR THE CONDITION BECAUSE THE CAR IS FAILING PREMATURELY.TOYOTA SHOULD RECALL THE 2007 CAMRY HYBRID IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THIS CAN CAUSE DANGER TO THE OCCUPANTS IN THE CAR AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS ALIKE. *TR

APPROX MID JANUARY 2014 WHILE GOING DOWN THE HWY ABOUT 40 MILES FROM HOME MY VSC LIGHT CAME ON AND I LOST ALMOST ALL THE USE OF MY BRAKES, WHICH REALLY FRIGHTEN ME. I AM SINGLE AND HAVE NO FAMILY AROUND TO HELP. I GOT OFF THE HWY AND WENT VERY SLOW. THE LIGHT WENT OFF BEFORE I GOT HOME AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH IT UNTIL DEC 2014 WHILE GOING TO WORK. THE LIGHT CAME ON AND OFF TWICE BEFORE I GOT TO WORK AND I LOST BRAKES USE. THEN IT HAPPEN AGAIN FIRST WEEK JAN. 2015. IT HAS HAPPEN TWICE RECENTLY AND I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT DRIVING THE CAR. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT MIGHT HAPPEN AND IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. I LOOKED IT UP ON THE INTERNET AND SAW QUITE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WERE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE IT FIXED. I HOPE YOUR INVESTIGATION CAN HELP CORRECT THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SOMEONE GET HURT OR WORSE KILLED. I HAS TO BE A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE IF THIS MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING THIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. *TR

AS I WAS ON A 2-HOUR DRIVE TO MEET MY BROTHERS FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO ENTER MY ELDERLY MOTHER INTO ASSISTED LIVING ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS ON MY DASH LIT UP. I WAS AFRAID TO CONTINUE SO I STOPPED AT THE DEALERSHIP TO SEE IF IT WAS SAFE TO KEEP GOING. THEY SAID IT WAS THE BRAKE FILTER RESERVOIR ASSEMBLY AND THAT I SHOULD NOT CONTINUE ON THE TRIP UNTIL IT WAS REPLACED. THEY DID REPLACE IT AT NO COST. I WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TO MY MOTHER'S ASSISTED LIVING APPOINTMENT, LEAVING MY BROTHERS "HOLDING THE BAG." ONE MONTH LATER, ON OCTOBER 9, 2014, I WAS AGAIN TRAVELING AT 55 MPH WHEN ALL OF THE BRAKE WARNING LIGHTS LIT UP AGAIN. SINCE I WAS NOT FAR FROM HOME I TURNED AROUND AND PARKED MY CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY UNTIL I COULD MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DEALERSHIP. UPON EXAMINATION AT THE DEALERSHIP, I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS THE BRAKE ACTUATOR ASSEMBLY. THEY SAID THAT THE DIAGNOSTIC CODES THAT CAME UP WERE NOT EVEN SOMETHING THEY HAD SEEN BEFORE AND THEY HAD TO GET THEM INTERPRETED BY TOYOTA. THEIR EXPLANATION WAS THAT THE "BRAINS" OF THE BRAKING SYSTEM HAD GONE BAD AND IT WOULD BE A VERY COSTLY EXPENSE. THEY DID WORK WITH ME, ACCEPTED A COUPON THAT I HAD, COPPED A LOANER VEHICLE, AND REPLACED THE ACTUATOR AT A COST OF $1755.27. NOW I GET A LETTER IN THE MAIL SAYING THAT THERE IS A "WARRANTY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM." WHEN I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP TO ASK ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THESE CHARGES I WAS TOLD I WOULD NEED TO TAKE MY VEHICLE IN AGAIN FOR AN INSPECTION. SINCE IT'S AN HOUR DRIVE TO THE DEA

STARTED THE CAR AND THE "BRAKE" WARNING LIGHT IMMEDIATELY CAME ON. ALSO, IN THE MULTI-INFORMATION DISPLAY AT THE CENTER OF THE SPEEDOMETER, THE MESSAGE "CHECK VSC SYSTEM" APPEARED. I THOUGHT MAYBE MY PARKING BRAKE WAS CAUSING A PROBLEM, SO I ENGAGED AND DISENGAGED THAT. THEN I TRIED TO DRIVE THE CAR. THE BRAKE PEDAL BEHAVES AS IF THERE IS NO BRAKE-ASSIST. I JAM IT TO THE FLOOR TO GET MINIMAL BRAKING. I DROVE SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY HOME IN THIS CONDITION. IN SUBSEQUENT TRIPS (OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS) I HAVE ONLY SEEN THIS AGAIN ONE MORE TIME. WHEN THE SYSTEM DOES NOT REPORT THE PROBLEM, THE BRAKES WORK FINE. AND IN THAT ONE CASE WHERE THE PROBLEM RE-APPEARED, I WAS ABLE TO TURN THE CAR OFF AND BACK ON AGAIN A FEW TIMES, UNTIL THE PROBLEM DISAPPEARED. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE PROBLEM BEGIN WHILE I AM DRIVING -- ONLY WHEN I AM STARTING THE CAR. HOWEVER, I'VE NOW SEEN OTHERS DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM AS BEGINNING DURING DRIVING, SO I WILL BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL AND GET THE CAR TO THE DEALER ASAP. *JS

AT HIGHER SPEED BRAKES VIBRATE HORRIBLY WHEN BRAKE PEDAL IS PUSHED AND CAR IS ALMOST UNCONTROLLABLE. NOW IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AT ANY SPEEDS OVER 40-50MPH. *TR

I WAS GETTING OFF OF THE HIGHWAY. I STARTED TO DECELERATE AND I LOST A MAJORITY OF MY BRAKE POWER. ALL OF THE LIGHTS ON MY DASH CAME ON, AND MY DISPLAY SAID CHECK VSC SYSTEM. I PULLED ONTO THE SHOULDER WAS SLAMMING ON MY BRAKE SINCE I HAD VERY LITTLE BRAKE POWER AT THIS POINT. I TURNED OFF MY CAR AND TURNED IT BACK ON SEVERAL TIMES. THE LIGHTS STAYED ILLUMINATED. I WAS 1/2 A MILE FROM WORK AT THIS POINT. I DROVE WITH MY HAZARD LIGHTS ON AND TOOK IT SLOW TO WORK. WHEN I GOT TO WORK AND PULLED INTO THE PARKING LOT, THE LIGHTS WENT OFF. *TR

WE WERE ON A TRIP FROM NY TO ATLANTA, GA LAST THANKSGIVING AND SOMEWHERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE CAR EMITTED A WARNING PING, AND A NUMBER OF LIGHTS ON THE DASH, INCLUDING BRAKES, CHECK ENGINE, VCS AND A YELLOW TRIANGLE, ILLUMINATED. A MESSAGE ON THE DISPLAY READ "CHECK ABS". AT THE SAME TIME THE BRAKES BECAME EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ACTUATE AND I FELT AS THOUGH I HAD TO PUT ALL MY EFFORT INTO ACTIVATING THE CAR'S BRAKES. WE PULLED INTO A REST STOP AND AS WE BEGAN TO SLOW, THE LIGHTS WENT OUT. JUST BEFORE WE GOT TO A PARKING SPOT HOWEVER, THE SAME THING OCCURRED. WE LET THE CAR SIT FOR A WHILE BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO MOVE TO TURN IT ON AGAIN, AT WHICH POINT, THINGS SEEMED NORMAL. IT HAPPENED ONCE OR TWICE AGAIN ON THE TRIP THERE, BUT DIDN'T OCCUR AT ALL ON THE WAY BACK NOR THROUGHOUT 2014... UNTIL NOW. RECENTLY THE SAME THING HAS BEGUN HAPPENING WITH MORE REGULARITY. WE TOOK THE CAR IN FOR A DIAGNOSIS TODAY. WHILE RESEARCHING THE ISSUE, I NOTICED THAT THIS HAS BEEN REPORTED PREVIOUSLY, SO I DECIDED TO ADD MY VOICE TO THE MASSES. *TR