2003 Land Rover Discovery II

Defect. JAGUAR LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA, INC. (LAND ROVER) IS RECALLING CERTAIN REAR DRIVESHAFT COUPLINGS, LAND ROVER BRANDED PART NUMBER TVF100010, MANUFACTURED FROM APRIL 2011 THROUGH NOVEMBER 2011, SOLD FOR USE AS SERVICE PARTS FOR CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 1995-1999 DISCOVERY, 1999-2004 DISCOVERY II, AND 1995 RANGE ROVER CLASSIC VEHICLES. SOME OF THE REAR DRIVESHAFT COUPLINGS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED TO THE REQUIRED ENGINEERING DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS AND MAY EXHIBIT THE ONSET OF JOINT SEPARATION, PRECLUDED BY DRIVE LINE VIBRATION.

Risk. IF THIS INCREASED VIBRATION WARNING SIGN IS IGNORED, CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE DRIVE COUPLING CAN OCCUR. THE DRIVESHAFT MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE WHILE IN MOTION RESULTING IN LOSS OF DRIVE AND LOSS OF TRANSMISSION PARK FUNCTIONALITY, INCREASING THE RISK OF A VEHICLE CRASH AND/OR INJURY.

Remedy. LAND ROVER WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE AFFECTED REAR DRIVESHAFT COUPLERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 4, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT JAGUAR LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA AT 1-201-818-8500.

Defect. ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, THE ACTIVE CORNERING ENHANCEMENT (ACE) PUMP BANJO BOLT LOOSES TORQUE AND ALLOWS FLUID TO LEAK PAST THE JOINT.

Risk. THE FLUID FROM THE PUMP JOINT CAN IGNITE, RESULTING IN AN UNDER HOOD FIRE.

Remedy. DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE VEHICLES FOR LEAKAGE. IF NO LEAKAGE IS EVIDENT, THE BANJO BOLT WILL BE RE-TIGHTENED. IF LEAKAGE IS EVIDENT, THE BANJO BOLT AND DOWTY WASHERS WILL BE REPLACED. OWNER NOTIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT LAND ROVER AT 1-800-637-6837.

Defect. CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS NO. 105, "HYDRAULIC AND ELECTRIC BRAKE SYSTEMS," AND NO. 135, "PASSENGER CAR BRAKE SYSTEMS." THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS) MODULATOR VALVE COVER RETAINING BOLTS CAN CRACK DUE TO STRESSES TRANSMITTED BY THE FLEXING VALVE COVERS.

Risk. THIS CAN PRODUCE AN UNEXPECTED INCREASE IN STOPPING DISTANCE, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR TOTAL LOSS OF SERVICE BRAKING FUNCTION, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.

Remedy. DEALERS WILL STRENGTHEN THE ABS MODULATOR ASSEMBLY VALVE COVERS AND REPLACE THE RETAINING BOLTS. OWNER NOTIFICATION IS EXEPCTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT LAND ROVER AT 1-800-637-6837.

ENGINE STARTED KNOCKING AFTER I PURCHASED IT AND I HAD JUST GOT THE BEST RECOMMENDED OIL AN SPARK PLUGS / WIRES NO MONEY TO REPAIR

WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.

THE STEERING AIR BAG BLOWOUT FOR NOTHING, THE VEHICLE WAS STATIONARY THE MOTOR WAS WORKING I'M WHASING THE LAND ROVER AND THAT HAPPENED, I'M CONFUSE.

MY ENGINE STARTED MAKING A KNOCKING SOUND AND THEN A SOUND SIMILAR TO METAL SCRATCHING METAL. I HAD A MASTER MECHANIC LOOK AT THE ENGINE AND HAD SEVERAL PART REPLACED 1500.00 WORTH TO BE EXACT AND STILL THE SOUND OCCURS. I CONTACTED LAND ROVER AND BECAUSE MY VEHICLE IS USED AND OVER THE WARRANTY THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO BUT SUGGEST A NEW ENGINE. I HAVE RESEARCHED AND IT APPEARS THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGE BY LAND ROVER THAT THE LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2003 THE OIL PUMP WAS FAULTY, HOWEVER HAVE DENIED ANY KIND OF SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM TO MULTIPLE CUSTOMERS OTHER THAN SUGGESTING A NEW ENGINE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND AS A CONSUMER WE CAN BE EXPECTED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS ON A VEHICLE WHICH THE MANUFACTURE KNOWING AND WILLINGLY MANUFACTURE THE A VEHICLE WITH FAULTY EQUIPMENT. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO SAFETY RISK TO THIS FAULTY EQUIPMENT ITS STILL WRONG TO PRODUCE A TECHNICAL WITH FAULTY EQUIPMENT. I AM OTHER CUSTOMERS ARE HOPING BY CONTACTING THE NHTSA SOMETHING WILL BE DONE. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE WOULD SUDDENLY STALL. THE FAILURE WAS DIAGNOSED BY THE DEALER WHO CONFIRMED THAT THE ENGINE OIL PUMP WAS FAULTY AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 55,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE OIL PUMP FAILED, CAUSING THE ENGINE TO SEIZE AND FAIL. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO A MECHANIC AND WAS TOLD THAT BECAUSE THE OIL PUMP FAILED, THE ENGINE WOULD NEED REPLACING. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 150,000.

I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME ONLINE ISSUE WITH MY LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II, MY VIN IS NOT THE SAME HOWEVER THE SAME EXACT ISSUES. "2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II OIL PUMP FAILURE" I HAVE A LOAD KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM MY ENGINE, THE VEHICLE IS STILL RUNNING, AND OIL CHANGES, TREATMENTS ETC CANNOT STOP THE KNOCK. NOT GETTING ANY WARNING LIGHTS OF LOW PRESSURE HOWEVER IT IS AT THE LAND ROVER DEALERSHIP OF FORT WORTH NOW AND THEY CONFIRMED THE SAME. THIS A $12,000 FIX FOR AN ISSUE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RECALL OR NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. I HAVE OVER 300 POSTINGS ON LINE ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES BUT ALL IN 60 MINS OF LOOKING AND SURE THERE ARE THOUSANDS MORE. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SEARCH FOR RECALLS OVER IN GREAT BRITAIN BEING THAT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT?S WHERE MY VEHICLE WAS IMPORTED FROM WITH THE SALTY VIN NUMBER BUT ANY DIRECTION WOULD BE APPRECIATED. *TR

WHILE DRIVING LOW MILEAGE 2003 DISCOVERY II SE7, ENGINE BEGAN TO KNOCK IN UPPER ENGINE AREA ON DRIVER SIDE. PULLED INTO LOCAL REPAIR SHOP IMMEDIATELY AND WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT A ROD AS THE NOISE DISSIPATES WHEN IDLED ABOVE 1000 RPM. TOOK IT TO A LOCAL LAND ROVER SHOP AND WAS TOLD IT WAS EITHER A BAD OIL PUMP OR THE SLEEVE IN THE CYLINDER AT THE BACK OF THE ENGINE HAS COME LOOSE AND IS KNOCKING UP AGAINST THE HEAD GASKET. TECHNICIAN PRIVATELY INDICATED BOTH ARE KNOWN ISSUES AND THAT A NEW ENGINE IS REQUIRED IN EITHER CASE AND THAT LR NORTH AMERICA KNOWS OF THE ISSUES AND HAS REFUSED TO ASSIST OWNERS OR ISSUE A RECALL. COST OF NEW ENGINE IS BETWEEN $8,000 AND 12,000 DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK WITH. SINCE THE ONLY REAL ISSUE SO FAR IS THE NOISE FACTOR (SOUNDS LIKE A DIESEL WHILE IDLING), TECHNICIAN FURTHER ADVISED IT WOULD BE BEST TO KEEP DRIVING THE LR UNTIL IT COMPLETELY FAILED AS THE PRICE OF NEW ENGINE WOULD NOT BE MORE AND I SHOULD GET AS MUCH FROM THE ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE. REQUEST NHTSA LOBBY ON BEHALF OF OWNERS TO GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED BETWEEN OWNERS AND LRNA. ISSUES ARE OBVIOUS MANUFACTURING DEFECTS AND LR SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROBLEM AND OFFER SOME TYPE SOLUTION TO THE CONSUMER. THE NHTSA SHOULD ISSUE SOME SORT OF FINE IF POSSIBLE TO FORCE LR TO MAKE GOOD ON THEIR PRODUCT. *TR

I OWN A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SE. THIS VEHICLE ONLY HAS 57,000 MILES AND HAS BEEN VERY WELL MAINTAINED. RECENTLY I NOTICED A TAP COMING FROM THE ENGINE. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK IT OVER TO THE LOCAL LAND ROVER DEALER. AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS, I WAS INFORMED THAT IT NEEDED A NEW ENGINE IN ORDER TO FIX THIS PROBLEM, AT A COST OF $14,000. WHAT A JOKE! THERE IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM WITH THESE TRUCKS MAINTAINING ADEQUATE OIL PRESSURE IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM RUNNING PROPERLY. ONCE AGAIN THE CONSUMER GETS THE SHAFT. I AM NOW STUCK, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER LR OWNERS, FACED WITH A HUGE REPAIR BILL. THIS MATTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED INTO AS A POSSIBLE RECALL. *TR

WHILE DRIVING OUR 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II HSE TODAY, THE THROTTLE SUDDENLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY STUCK IN THE FULL POSITION. MY WIFE WAS ABLE TO AVOID TRAFFIC, CONTROL THE VEHICLE AND GET THE TRANSMISSION IN NEUTRAL. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A LAND ROVER DEALER, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THE THROTTLE BUTTERFLY VALVE HAD STUCK. I RESEARCHED THIS AND CAME UP WITH NHTSA CASE NUMBER 03V133000 WHICH DEAL WITH THIS EXACT ISSUE FOR THIS MODEL YEAR VEHICLE. THE DEALER CLAIMS THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING RECALLS FOR MY VEHICLE AND REFUSED TO REPLACE THE PART UNDER THIS ISSUE. I FIND IT HIGHLY COINCIDENTAL THAT I AM EXPERIENCING THE EXACT ISSUE DESCRIBED IN THE NHTSA CASE. IN REVIEWING THE CASE INFORMATION THERE WERE OTHER REPORTS OUTSIDE OF THE DATE RANGE THAT LAND ROVER CLAIMS APPLY TO THIS DEFECT. I CONTACTED THE LAND ROVER CORPORATE OFFICE AND THEY SAID THEY WERE REVIEWING THE CASE, BUT THAT THE RECALL DID NOT APPLY TO MY VEHICLE SINCE THE RECALLS ARE VIN SPECIFIC. THE SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE DID ADMIT THAT THIS PROBLEM DOES OCCUR ON OTHER VEHICLES OF THIS TYPE. THERE WAS NO WARNING OF THIS FAILURE AND IT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT. *TR

2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II "SLABS CONTROL UNIT" OTHERWISE KNOWN BY THE OWNER & MECHANICS AS THE "3 AMIGOS (ABS,HDC,TC)...... I AM SURE YOU HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE INTERNET HAS SEVERAL UNHAPPY OWNERS COMPLAINING. THIS UNIT CONTROLSTHE 4-WHEEL ANTI-LOCK BRAKING, HILL DESCENT AND 4 WHEEL TRACTION CONTROL ALONG WITH SELF LEVELING SUSPENSION. TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM THE DEALER WANTS TO INSTALL A NEW UNIT AT A COST OF OVER $1500 TO 2500 DEPENDING ON LABOR COST. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE ALREADY CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION IN THE ABOVE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.. *TR

1. APPLIED THE BRAKES. 2. EVERY TIME I APPLY BRAKES AFTER VEHICLE HAS BEEN STARTED 3. DEALER CLAIMS THERE IS NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE... APPARENTLY ALL SUCH MODELS HAVE THIS ISSUE, WHICH GENERATES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY LAND ROVER HAS NOT BEEN MADE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, MUCH LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HAD SUCH AN ISSUE BEEN INCURRED WITH A CHEVROLET, FORD OR TOYOTA? THIS ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118? THIS DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE RECOGNIZED PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS MODULATOR AND SYSTEM, RESULTING IN THE ABS/ EMERGENCY BRAKE / HILL DESCENT AND TRACTION CONTROL LAMPS ILLUMINATING ON THE DASH, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE ABS SYSTEM TO INCUR FAILURE WHEN NEEDED? THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE OWNERS INCURRING THIS PROBLEM INDICATES THERE IS A SERIOUS INHERENT DEFECT WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, WHICH I AND MANY OTHERS CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH HAVE NOT BEEN RECALLED... THERE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN ANOTHER RECALL FOR AN ABS COMPONENT IN THIS VEHICLE (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000) AND THIS PRELIMINARY RECALL SHOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS ISSUE WITH THE ABS SYSTEM? THIS ISSUE IS WELL DOCUMENTED AND WIDESPREAD AMONG THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AND THE NHTSA SHOULD FINALLY REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO CORRECT SUCH. *TR

I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME OIL PUMP SYMPTOMS OTHERS HAVE COMPLAINED OF. DESPITE READING "FULL", MY TRUCK SEEMS TO HAVE DIFFICULTY ADEQUATELY LUBRICATING. SO, SOME DAYS IT'S SOUNDED LIKE A TANK!! *TR

I JUST BOUGHT A LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2 SERIES HSE WITH 50,000 PLUS MILES 2 WEEKS AGO AND JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE OIL PUMP PROBLEM. MY DISCOVERY IS WITHIN THE AFFECTED VIN# AND ALREADY HAS THE OIL LIGHT ON. SO WHAT'S THE UPDATE ON THIS MATTER?? ANY RECALL FROM LAND ROVER???? *TR

2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II -ABS STOPS WORKING, IMPAIRED BRAKING, TRACTION CONTROL STOPS WORKING, BAD ABS MODULATOR CONNECTION. HAPPENS SPONTANEOUSLY. REPLACED ABS MODULATOR. *TR

I PURCHASED A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II HSE WITH 44K MILES. IN FEBRUARY 2008, I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO LAND ROVER DEALER TO HAVE A FULL INSPECTION OF THE VEHICLE. THE INSPECTION REPORT NOTED THAT VEHICLE WAS IN GREAT CONDITION WITH NO ISSUES NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED. BUT ALONG WITH THE EVALUATION PAPER WORK PROVIDED BY THE LAND ROVER DEALER WAS A LAND ROVER TECHNICAL ALERT. THE TECHNICAL ALERT STATED THE FOLLOWING;' DISCOVERY SERIES II (LT) 3A771801 ' 3A808362 SITUATION OIL PUMP FAILURES ON 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES MAY BE THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. LOCATING DOWEL PINS MAY BE SLIGHTLY MISALIGNED PERMITTING ASSEMBLY OF THE OIL PUMP TO THE ENGINE BLOCK, BUT PLACING STRESS ON THE PUMP HOUSING WHICH CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO LEAKAGE OR FAILURE. RESOLUTION WHENEVER AN OIL PUMP FAILURE IS ENCOUNTERED ON VEHICLES WITHIN THE ABOVE VIN RANGE THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IS REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE ASSEMBLY INCLUDING THE FRONT COVER/OIL PUMP MANUFACTURED TO THE LATEST TOLERANCES. MY LAND ROVER VIN NUMBER FALLS WITHIN THE IDENTIFIED VIN NUMBER RANGE OF AFFECTED VEHICLES. JUMP AHEAD TO 2010. WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE ON 26 MARCH 2010, THE OIL LIGHT CAME AND THE ENGINE BEGAN TO MAKE RUMBLING SOUNDS. I TURNED OFF THE VEHICLE. FEARING THE WORST, I HAD THE VEHICLE TOWED AT A COST OF $545 TO MY MECHANIC. MY MECHANIC CONFIRMED THAT THE OIL PUMP HAD FAILED. I SPOKE TO THE LAND ROVER DEALER AND TO LAND ROVER OF NORTH AMERICA. NEITHER WOULD COVER

2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY OIL PUMP FAILURE. LAND ROVER IS AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM AND DOES NOT WANT TO DO A RECALL. *TR

THE DEFECT IS ALREADY RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118. IN SHORT, THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE SHUTTLE VALVES IN THE ABS SYSTEM, WHICH RESULT IN THE ABS/TRACTION CONTROL/HILL DESCENT WARNING LAMP ILLUMINATION IN THE DASH, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY MAY PREVENT THE ABS FROM ACTIVATING AS NEEDED. DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF OWNERS EXPERIENCING THIS SAME SPECIFIC ISSUE, A RECALL IS VERY APPROPRIATE. THERE ARE INHERENT PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS IN THESE CARS, AS IS PRELIMINARY EVIDENT IN THE FACT THAT THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A RECALL FOR ANOTHER COMPONENT IN THE ABS (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000). THIS ISSUE IS VERY WIDESPREAD AMONG OWNER'S OF THIS AUTOMOBILE. THE SAFETY SYSTEM OF THE AUTOMOBILE IS COMPROMISED AND THE NHTSA SHOULD REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO FINALLY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. *TR

MY 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SUFFERS FROM A WELL KNOWN PROBLEM WHICH CAUSES THE ABS AND TRACTION CONTROL TO FAIL. HUNDREDS OF DISCOVERIES SUFFER FROM THIS WELL KNOWN PROBLEM WITH NO FIX OR RECALL FROM LAND ROVER. THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN COINED "THREE AMIGOS" AND CAN BE EASILY FOUND BY SEARCHING ONLINE. I AM DEPENDENT ON MY ABS AND CONSTANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY AM PUTTING MY FAMILY AT RISK WITH THIS CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT FAILURE. MY DISCOVERY RECENTLY SLID OFF OF THE ROAD DUE TO LOSS OF ABS DURING A RAIN STORM. I HAD 2 CHILDREN IN THE VEHICLE WITH ME. *TR

I HAVE A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY. I JUST PAID TO REPLACE THE OIL PUMP ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT LAND ROVER PUBLISHED A TECHNICAL ALERT THAT STATES THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THE ISSUE IS TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE ENGINE. DOWEL PINS ON THE BLOCK ARE MISALIGNED DUE TO A MANUFACTURER ERROR PER THE ALERT. THE VEHICLE ONLY HAS 58K MILES AND HAS BEEN METICULOUSLY MAINTAINED. LAND ROVER IS NOT OFFERING TO COVER ANY OF THE REPAIR COSTS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A MANUFACTURER ERROR FROM THE START. *TR

I HAVE A 2003 LANDROVER DISCOVERY 85,000 MILES ON THE VEHICLE WHEN THE OIL LIGHT CAME ON. THE REPAIR SHOP STATES I NEED A NEW OIL PUMP. THERE IS A LANDROVER SERVICE BULLETIN OUT THAT STATES THEY ARE AWARE THAT SOME DISCOVERY'S BETWEEN A SET OF SERIAL NUMBERS ARE DEFECTIVE BUT THEY WILL NOT HELP THE OWNERS OF THESE VEHICLES TO REPAIR THE PROBLEM IT WILL COST ME $1,300 DOLLARS AT THE LEAST TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. THIS SHOULD BE COVERED BY LANDROVER. *TR

I HAVE A 2003 LAND ROVER THAT JUST PASSED 50 K AND STARTED TICKING FROM THE ENGINE. I TOOK IT TO THE DEALER AND THEY TOLD ME THAT I HAD A OIL PUMP FAILURE AND I NEED A NEW ENGINE. THAT WILL COST 8000$. WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THE MANUFACTURER HAS HUNDREDS OF THESE FAILURES. *TR

THE PROBLEM IS WITH OUR 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY. THE PROBLEM OCCURS ALMOST DAILY. THE TRACTION CONTROL, ABS, AND HILL DESCENT (REFERRED TO AS THE THREE AMIGOS). I FEEL THIS IS VERY MUCH A SAFETY RECALL DUE TO LACK OF BRAKING AND TRACTION WHEN THESE LIGHTS ALL ARE ON. WHEN THESE LIGHTS ARE ON THE TRACTION CONTROL DEVICE DOES NOT FUNCTION. DUE TO LIVING IN ILLINOIS WEATHER THIS CREATES PROBLEMS DRIVING ON SNOW AND ICE COVERED ROADS-IN WHICH IN OUR AREA WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A SHORTAGE ON SALT FOR THE ROADS. THE FULL REASONING AS TO WHY I BOUGHT THIS VEHICLE WAS TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ROAD CONDITIONS (I DIDN'T THINK PROBLEMS WITH SYSTEM FAILURES WOULD OCCUR WITH THE COST OF THESE VEHICLES) I FEEL THIS IS A RECALL PROBLEM. PUTTING MANY PEOPLES LIVES IN JEOPARDY WHO ACTUALLY FEEL THEY ARE SAFE WHILE DRIVING UNTIL THEY EXPERIENCE THE FAILURE OF THIS SYSTEM IN THESE VEHICLES WHILE ON A WEEKEND TRIP OR FOUR WHEELING AS WHICH THEY WERE DESIGNED TO DO. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT I CREATED ON MY VEHICLE THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT THE COMPANY CREATED WHEN THEY PRODUCED THESE VEHICLES AND SOLD THEM. I DO NOT FEEL IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO CORRECT THEIR FLAW THAT THEY MADE IN THE PRODUCTION OF THESE VEHICLES WITH DEFECTIVE SYSTEM ALLOWING FAILURE DURING DRIVING CONDITIONS IF A SYSTEM FAILS THAT IS DEFECTIVE. AS TO ANY DEATHS RELATED IN THIS INCIDENT -THE ANSWER WOULD BE AS OF THIS TIME NO AND I PRAY THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THE POLICE WHERE CALLED BECAUSE I'M QUITE SURE

BOLT ON OIL PUMP LOST TORQUE THAT CAUSED OIL LOSS AND ENGINE OVERHEATING AND HEAD GASKET FAILURE. OCCURRED ONE TIME AND HAD OIL PUMP REPAIRED. EXPANSION RESERVOIR TANK REPLACED. PLENUM LINES REPLACED. HEAD GASKET REPLACED. ACCORDING TO DESIGN FLAW INDICATED BY LAND ROVER AMERICA, THIS ISSUE IS HIGHLY LIKELY TO OCCUR AGAIN. *TR

2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II EXPERIENCED SUDDEN OIL PUMP FAILURE WHICH WILL REQUIRE AN ENTIRE ENGINE REPLACEMENT. THIS PROBLEM WAS RECOGNIZED AS A MANUFACTURING ERROR PER A LAND ROVER TECHNICAL ALERT TA03 1201 ISSUED IN 2003 BUT WAS NOT DIVULGED TO THE PUBLIC AND HAS NOT GENERATED A RECALL. THE MANUFACTURER REFUSES TO SIGNIFICANTLY ASSIST WITH REPLACEMENT DESPITE THEIR PREVIOUS IDENTIFIED ERROR AND CLEAR CONSUMER EXPECTATION THAT OIL PUMP MALFUNCTIONS AND/OR ENGINE REPLACEMENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED AFTER 5 YEARS/60K MILES OF USE WITH A NORMALLY MAINTAINED ENGINE. *TR

I WAS DRIVING MY '03 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II HOME FROM WORK AND IT SUDDENLY DIED. IT RESTARTED ABOUT AN HOUR LATER SO I DROVE IT TO THE AUTO SHOP. THEY, AFTER TALKING WITH LAND ROVER DIRECTLY, SAID THE ENGINE WASN'T GETTING ENOUGH OIL AND WE WOULD NEED A NEW ENGINE!!! WE GET OUR LAND ROVER SERVICED VERY REGULARLY SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY FOR AN '03 WITH 70,000 MILES. WITH THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS, THIS IS RIDICULOUS! NOW THEY'RE TELLING US WE HAVE TO PAY $5,000 FOR A USED ENGINE WITH 40,000 MILES. I NOTICED A TON OF OTHER PEOPLE HAD THIS SAME PROBLEM WITH THE OIL PUMP FROM THE '03 LAND ROVERS. HELP!!! *TR

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II ABS FAULT. I CANNOT DRIVE MORE THAN 5 MILES WITHOUT THE ABS, HILL DESCENT CONTROL, AND TRANSFER CASE WARNING LIGHTS ILLUMINATING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS FAULT IS A RESULT OF AN ABS SYSTEM FAILURE. AFTER FAULT HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY THE CARS COMPUTER, ABS IS NON-RESPONSIVE. THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE AFFECTING MANY OF THE LAND ROVER DISCOVERY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. I HAVE TAKEN THE CAR INTO MY MECHANIC WHO HAS BEEN UNABLE TO PINPOINT THE PROBLEM. APPARENTLY MORE THAN ONE ELEMENT TO THE ABS SYSTEM IS DEFECTIVE. THIS OCCURS EVERYDAY AND I'M STILL WORKING ON A RESOLUTION. I CANNOT SELL THE CAR IN GOOD CONSCIOUS WITH SUCH A HAZARDOUS PROBLEM. *TR

LAND ROVER NEEDS TO RECALL ALL AFFECTED DISCOVERY VEHICLES WITH OIL PUMP PROBLEMS. I HAVE HAD A TICKING NOISE COMING FROM THE ENGINE WHICH MY MECHANIC SAYS IS CAUSED FORM LACK OF OIL. AFTER RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM, I HAVE FOUND SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED DUE TO A PRODUCTION ERROR. AND THE ONLY FIX IS REPLACING THE ENTIRE ENGINE? I'M AMAZED THIS PROBLEM HAS NOT GOTTEN MORE ATTENTION! *TR

LAND ROVER TECHNICAL ALERT TA03-1201 OIL PUMP FAILURES ON 2003 DISCOVERY II VEHICLES MAY BE THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. VINS 3A771801 - 3A808362 ARE THE AFFECTED VEHICLES. THE ALERT STATES THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR IS ENGINE REPLACEMENT. I'VE BEEN TOLD LAND ROVER WILL NOT PAY FOR THIS REPAIR. WHY? *TR

WE HAVE A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY W/ 47K MILES ON IT. ON FRIDAY NIGHT, AUGUST 15TH 2008, WE STARTED TO DRIVE DOWN OUR STREET WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ENGINE SOUNDED LIKE A DIESEL TRUCK. IT WAS HORRIBLE. WE ALSO HAD A RED OIL LIGHT. THE CAR FELT SLUGGISH, SOUNDED HORRIBLE & HAD AN OIL LIGHT ON SO WE TURNED AROUND AND PARKED THE LAND ROVER BEFORE THE ENGINE SEIZED UP. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COULD BE & DETERMINED THAT OUR OIL PUMP HAS FAILED. I AM UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A TECHNICAL DEFECT THAT WAS ISSUED ON MARCH 14, 2003, BUT NO RECALL. THIS IS QUITE DISTURBING SINCE THE MANUFACTURING IS ADMITTING TO FAULT, BUT IS NOT SETTING UP A RECALL FOR THIS ITEM. WITH THE PRICES OF GAS, FOOD, UTILITIES AND THE GENERAL STATE OF OUR ECONOMY, I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FIX THIS RIG AT THIS TIME. I AM HOPING THAT THE DEALERSHIP WILL FIX THIS ISSUE SINCE IT IS A MANUFACTURER'S (SELF ADMITTED) DEFECT. WE TRIED CALLING THE DEALER ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 16TH 2008 BUT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IS CLOSED. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO TURN FOR HELP BUT TO THE DEALER. AND, FROM READING OTHER FORUM POSTS FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS MYSELF IT APPEARS THAT THE DEALERSHIPS ARE LESS THAN HELPFUL IN RESOLVING THIS DEFECT. GOOD BUSINESS IS GOOD BUSINESS -- AND... BAD BUSINESS IS BAD BUSINESS. PLEASE HELP!!!!! *TR

IN THE FALL OF 2007, AT APPROX. 75,000 MILES I BEGAN TO NOTICE A PERIODIC RHYTHMIC TAPPING FROM THE ENGINE OF MY 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2. MY MECHANIC SUGGESTED USING A THICKER GRADE OIL. THE NOISE QUIETED BRIEFLY THEN RETURNED MORE CONSISTENTLY, BEGINNING AS SOON AS THE VEHICLE WOULD WARM UP. IN DECEMBER, AFTER CONSULTING WITH LOCAL LAND ROVER DEALER SERVICE, MY MECHANIC REMOVED THE CYLINDER HEADS, "DE-COKED" THE VALVES, REPLACED GASKETS, BOLTS, LIFTERS, SPARK PLUGS, PLUG WIRES AND DRIVE BELT AT A COST OF $2340. THE NOISE CONTINUED. IN MAY OF 2008, AFTER MORE RESEARCH AND CONSULTING, MY MECHANIC DISASSEMBLED THE ENGINE , REPLACED LIFTERS, CHECKED THE CAMSHAFT, END FLOAT AND PUSH RODS, SUBSTITUTED THE ROCKER ARM ASSEMBLIES -- UNABLE TO FIND A CLEAR LINK, THE ENGINE WAS REASSEMBLED. THIS TIME THE BILL WAS $903.26. MY MECHANIC, WHO KNOWN FOR 10 YEARS AND TRUST COMPLETELY WAS BAFFLED. SENSING A UNDERLYING OIL PRESSURE ISSUE, HE ONCE AGAIN CONSULTED A LOCAL LAND ROVER DEALER SERVICE DEPARTMENT -- THEY THEN MENTIONED A PROBLEM LAND ROVER HAD BEEN HAVING WITH A BADLY MACHINED OIL PUMP HOUSING. WE RESEARCHED THE PROBLEM AND IN FACT FOUND (POSTED ON THE INTERNET BY ANOTHER 2003 DISCOVERY OWNER) AN INTERNAL TECHNICAL ALERT DETAILING A MANUFACTURING ERROR IN THE OIL PUMP HOUSING THAT MAY LEAD TO FAILURE. REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE WAS THE ONLY RECOMMENDED RESOLUTION. THE COST OF WHICH IS APPROX. $10,000. WORRIED THAT MY VEHICLE WOULD SHUT DOWN AT ANY MINUTE, I RETURNED TO TH

OIL PUMP FAILURE RESULTING IN COMPLETE ENGINE REPLACEMENT....NOTICED CAR OIL LEAK COMING FROM CAR AND ABOUT 2 DAYS LATER CHECK ENGINE LIGHT & OIL PRESSURE LIGHT CAME ON, TOOK TO DEALERSHIP...DEALERSHIP DISCOVERED OIL PUMP FAILURE AND OF COURSE ONLY REMEDY IS A COMPLETE ENGINE REPLACEMENT. ADVISED DEALERSHIP ABOUT TECHNICAL ALERT ISSUED ON 3/14/03 IN REFERENCE TO MANUFACTURER DEFECT WHICH CAUSES THE OIL PUMP FAILURE AND ALL I WAS TOLD WAS "SORRY, WE CANNOT COVER THIS...YOUR WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED AND THE NEW ENGINE WILL COST $11,000.00....GAVE NO OFFER OF HELP, ADVISED THAT I COME GET CAR..I GUESS I WILL HAVE TO GET CAR FROM DEALERSHIP WITH A TOW TRUCK! *TR

LAND ROVER HAS ISSUED A "TECHNICAL ALERT" DATED MARCH 14, 2003 CODED TA03 1201 TO THE ATTENTION OF SERVICE MANAGERS, SERVICE ADVISORS, AND TECHNICIANS. THE ALERT STATES THAT "OIL PUMP FAILURES ON 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES MAY BE THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. LOCATING DOWEL PINS MAY BE SLIGHTLY MISALIGNED PERMITTING ASSEMBLY OF THE OIL PUMP TO THE ENGINE BLOCK, BUT PLACING STRESS ON THE PUMP HOUSING WHICH CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO LEAKAGE OR FAILURE." THEY GO ON TO SAY THIS COULD CAUSE COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE! THE RESOLUTION PROPOSED BY LAND ROVER IS "...THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IS REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE ASSEMBLY..." IN SHORT THE ENGINE COULD SUDDENLY AND COMPLETELY FAIL. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY RECALL ISSUED RELATED TO THIS MATTER. I DO NOT WANT TO BE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY AND HAVE A COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE. WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS SITUATION? *TR

UPON SEEING THE LOW OIL PRESSURE LIGHT ILLUMINATE, I RESEARCHED ONLINE TO SEE WHAT MAY BE THE CAUSE. I THEN DISCOVERED THAT LAND ROVER HAD ISSUED A TECHNICAL ALERT (TA03-1201) ON MARCH 14, 2003 STATING THE FOLLOWING ISSUE AND RESOLUTION: 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II OIL PUMP FAILURES VEHICLES AFFECTED DISCOVERY SERIES II (LT) 3A771801 ? 3A808362 SITUATION OIL PUMP FAILURES ON 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES MAY BE THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. LOCATING DOWEL PINS MAY BE SLIGHTLY MISALIGNED PERMITTING ASSEMBLY OF THE OIL PUMP TO THE ENGINE BLOCK, BUT PLACING STRESS ON THE PUMP HOUSING WHICH CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO LEAKAGE OR FAILURE. RESOLUTION WHENEVER AN OIL PUMP FAILURE IS ENCOUNTERED ON VEHICLES WITHIN THE ABOVE VIN RANGE THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IS REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE ASSEMBLY INCLUDING THE FRONT COVER/OIL PUMP MANUFACTURED TO THE LATEST TOLERANCES. USE THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS TO AFFECT A REPAIR: ? LBB112301 4.6 ENGINE ASSEMBLY LEV ? LBB111461 4.6 ENGINE ASSEMBLY NON-LEV I CHECKED MY VIN NUMBER AND FOUND IT TO BE WITHIN THE EFFECTED VEHICLES. I DELIVERED THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP LAND ROVER OF THE GULFCOAST, MOBILE, AL)WHERE I WAS INFORMED BY THE SERVICE MANAGER THAT MY VEHICLE OIL PUMP FAILURE WAS DUE TO THE EXACT REASON AS STATED IN THE TECHNICAL ALERT AND THAT I SHOULD CONTACT THE NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF LAND ROVER TO SEEK A RESOLUTION TO THIS MATTER. THE TECHNICAL ALERT STATES THAT THIS PROBLEM IS DUE TO A MANUFACTURER'S DESIG

REAR LATCH MECHANISM FAILURE: REAR LATCH FAILURE DUE TO POOR MATERIAL SELECTION CAUSING CORROSION AND STICKING OF LATCH. REAR DOOR DOES NOT CLOSE PROPERLY CAUSING A POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARD WHEN OPENING DURING DRIVING. FINALLY BROUGHT TO DEALERSHIP AFTER LUBRICATION DID NOT WORK, AND AS USUAL THEY INDICATED IT WAS A COMMON PROBLEM. LATCH WAS GREASED AT DEALER AND FUNCTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HOWEVER I DID THE SAME THING AND IT LASTED ONLY A MONTH OR TWO. *TR

ANTI LOCK BRAKE FAILURE; MULTIPLE LIGHTS ILLUMINTE WHE HEAVY BRAKING DOWN HILLS. ALL BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS ARE NEW. LIGHTS ON DASH EXTINGUISH UPON RESTART. VERY POOR BRAKING ALMOST ALLOWING VEHICLE TO TRAVEL INTO CROSS TRAFFIC. FELT AS THOUGH ANTI-LOCK SYSTEM STOPPED FUNCTIONING WITH STANDARD BRAKING REMAINING. HAPPENDED SEVERAL TIMES WITH MYSELF AND WIFE DRIVING VEHICLE. BROUGHT TO DEALER AND LOOKED UP INFO ON INTERNET. DEALER INDICATED IS WAS THE ANTILOCK BRAKE SYSTEM MODULATOR. MANY COMPLAINTS ON ROVER WEBSITES ABOUT THIS GOING FAIRLY EARLY IN LIFE OF VEHICLE. DEALERSHIP TOLD MY WIFE THAT THERE WAS STILL NORMAL BRAKING IF LIGHTS ARE ON,BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE USED LIKE YOUR BRAKING WITH ANTILOCK SYSTEMS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT LANDROVER HAS NOT ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. THIS PROBLEM AS CAUSED SEVERAL CLOSE CALLS WHEN BRAKING ON LIMITED HILLS. DEALERSHIP INDICATED PART WAS $1500 AND TOTAL JOB WAS $2100 TO REPLACE, BUT AGAIN SAID IT WAS NOT NECESSARY TO DO AS BRAKING WOULD BE THERE IF LIGHTS WERE NOT ON. *TR

I HAD AN OIL PUMP FAILURE ON MY 03 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY. IT WAS UNDER WARRANTY, SO IT WAS TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP. HOWEVER, EVEN BEFORE THEY GOT BACK TO ME WITH A DIAGNOSIS, I HAD RESEARCHED AND FOUND OUT WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, AS IT IS A COMMON ISSUE WITH THIS YEAR, AND WITHIN A CERTAIN VIN RANGE. LAND ROVER EVEN ISSUED A TSB ABOUT THE ISSUE, AND BY THE TIME THEY CALLED ME BACK, I HAD THAT TSB IN HAND. THE DEALERSHIP STATED THAT MY CAR WOULD BE READY TO PICK UP THE NEXT DAY, THAT THE OIL PUMP HAD, "BASICALLY EXPLODED" THAT THEY HAD CLEANED ALL THE METAL OUT OF THE ENGINE, AND THAT IT WOULD BE FINE. I PROTESTED THIS BASED ON THE TSB, PUBLISHED BY LAND ROVER, THAT STATED THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE ENGINE! THE DEALERSHIP SAID THAT THIS TSB DID NOT APPLY ANYMORE. I ASKED FOR THE DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THE TSB HAD BEEN OVERRIDDEN. THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS NONE, BUT THAT THEY HAD FIXED IT IN THE, "NEW WAY". I CONTACTED THE LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA CORPORATE HQ AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT THEY COULD DO, THAT THE DEALERSHIP COULD DECIDE WHAT IT WANTED TO DO WITH THE ISSUE. SINCE THEN, I HAVE GOT SEVERAL FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THIS SAME ISSUE AND WHO HAD A NEW ENGINE PUT INTO THEIR CAR WITHIN A MONTH. I ALSO HAVE FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAD THE ISSUE, DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE TSB, AND NEVER GOT A NEW ENGINE. LAND ROVER'S OWN DOCUMENTATIONS SAY THAT I NEED A NEW ENGINE IN MY CAR, INDEPENDENT MECHAN

A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE INCIDENT ON JULY 20TH, MY WIFE AND I HEARD A VERY SLIGHT NOISE. AT FIRST IT WAS ONLY OCCASIONAL AND SOUNDED LIKE SOMETHING WAS VIBRATING IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT. AFTER A COUPLE MORE DAYS WENT BY, THE VIBRATING/RATTLING NOISE BECAME LOUDER AND BEGAN OCCURRING MORE OFTEN. WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GET IT CHECKED OUT AT THE SHOP. THE CAR WAS DUE FOR IT'S 75,000 MILE CHECKUP ANYWAY. I CALLED THE LAND ROVER DEALERSHIP IN CARY, NORTH CAROLINA FOR AN APPOINTMENT ON MONDAY, JULY 16TH, 2007 AND HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THURSDAY UNTIL A SCHEDULER GOT BACK TO US TO MAKE AN ACTUAL APPOINTMENT. THE EARLIEST THEY COULD TAKE US WAS THE FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY. IN THE MEANTIME, MY WIFE BECAME INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF DRIVING THE VEHICLE AS THE NOISE INTENSIFIED. ON THURSDAY, JULY 19TH SHE DROVE HOME FROM WORK AND BARELY MADE IT HOME THAT EVENING. SHE SUGGESTED CALLING ANOTHER REPAIR SHOP WITH A MASTER LEVEL LAND ROVER TECHNICIAN IN THE AREA TO SEE IF THEY COULD TAKE THE VEHICLE ANY EARLIER. AT THIS POINT, THE GRINDING NOISE WAS INCREASING AND IT INTENSIFIED WHEN YOU LET OFF THE GAS. IT SEEMED AS IF THE ENGINE WAS REVVING AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN NECESSARY AND THE TRANSMISSION WAS SLIPPING. SHE WAS FRIGHTENED TO DRIVE IT AT A HIGH SPEED AND CALLED ME TO ALERT ME AS SHE WAS DRIVING HOME SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN TO HER. THE NEXT MORNING ON FRIDAY, JULY 20TH I CALLED THE OTHER LAND ROVER REPAIR SHOP IN TOWN AND THEY SAID THEY COULD TAKE THE V

I ENCOUNTERED A FAIRLY WELL DOCUMENTED PROBLEM WITH 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERIES. THERE WAS A MANUFACTURERS DEFECT IN THE OIL PUMP THAT ULTIMATELY CAUSES THE ENTIRE ENGINE TO FAIL. LAND ROVER HAS ISSUED A TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROBLEM YET IS NOT STANDING BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT WHEN THE DISCOVERIES BREAKDOWN. THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS A FAULTY PART THAT CAUSED THE ENGINE FAILURE IN MY VEHICLE YET THEY ARE TRYING TO CHARGE ME TO PUT IN THE NEW ENGINE. *JB

MY HUSBAND BOUGHT ME THE 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY AS A 2006 CHRISTMAS GIFT. THE CAR HAD APPROXIMATELY 46,000 MILES ON IT. WE WERE DRIVING IT AND HEARD A POP & THE CAR JUST DIED. I HAD THE CAR A LITTLE OVER A MONTH. THERE WAS OIL & CHUNKS OF METAL UNDER THE CAR. WE HAD IT TOWED HOME AS THE DEALERSHIP WAS HOURS AWAY. MY HUSBAND LOOKED THROUGH THE PARTS BOOK & FOUND THAT IT WAS POSSIBLY THE FRONT ENGINE COVER/OIL PUMP. I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET & FOUND LAND ROVER ISSUED A TECHNICAL ALERT ENTITLED 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II OIL PUMP FAILURES, #T03 1201, ON MARCH 14, 2003 TO ITS DEALERS. IT ADVISED THAT THE DOWEL PINS ON THE BLOCK DID NOT ALIGN CORRECTLY WITH THE OIL PUMP. THIS CAUSED OIL STARVATION , WHICH IN TURN, CAUSED ENGINE FAILURE. IT CLEARLY STATED THE DEFECT WAS THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. MY HUSBAND PULLED OFF THE FRONT ENGINE COVER TO DISCOVER THE ENGINE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CRANKSHAFT DESTROYED. I CALLED LAND ROVER CUSTOMER RELATIONS & SHE ADVISED ME THERE WAS NO RECALL & TO CALL THE DEALERSHIP TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THEY WOULD DO. I AM STILL PENDING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEIR SERVICE DEPARTMENT. LAND ROVER NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE DEFECT ISSUE AS THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT . *AK

WE BOUGHT A NEW 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II FROM LAND ROVER OF MILFORD, CT IN 12/03. WE HAVE CHANGED THE OIL FAITHFULLY EVERY 3,000 MILES AND HAD THE NECESSARY SERVICES DONE AND WERE AT 44,724 MILES. WE WERE DRIVING HOME FROM VT A MONTH AGO AND THE OIL LIGHT WENT ON. I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED AND CHECKED THE OIL, WHICH WAS FULL. I TURNED ON THE CAR AND THE ENGINE IMMEDIATELY STARTED MAKING A STRANGE SOUND. I CALLED LAND ROVER ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE AND OUR WARRANTY HAD EXPIRED 28 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS. WE HAD IT FLAT BEDDED HOME TO CONNECTICUT IMMEDIATELY. THEN WE HAD IT FLAT BEDDED TO THE DEALERSHIP. THE OIL PUMP HAD BLOWN AND THE ENGINE HAD SEIZED. AT FIRST THEY SAID THEY WOULD NOT PAY FOR IT AS IT WAS NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY. I DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET REGARDING THIS PROBLEM AND FOUND OUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE OIL PUMPS ON THE 03 DISCOVERY MODELS AND IN FACT THERE WAS A TECHNICAL RECALL FOR THAT YEAR. WHEN WE ASKED THE SERVICE MANAGER ABOUT THAT, HE SAID THAT IF IT WAS A FAULTY OIL PUMP IT WOULD HAVE BLOWN BY 20,000 MILES AND NOT GONE TO 44,000 MILES. WE SENT THEM DOCUMENTATION OF ALL THE SERVICES WE HAVE HAD DONE ON THE CAR AND THEY AGREED TO PAY FOR HALF OF THE COST OF THE ENGINE. WE STILL DON'T HAVE A CAR, AS THEY HAVE STILL NOT RECEIVED AN ENGINE. (AND THEY DID NOT OFFER US A LOANER CAR FOR THE INTERIM). NOW TODAY I WAS DOING FURTHER RESEARCH AND FOUND ON THE EDMUNDS WEBSITE 3 OTHER 03 DISCOVERY IT'S WITH 40,000, 57,000 AND 60,000 MILES ON THE ENGINES THAT

I ACCELERATED TO PASS AND HEARD A MUFFLED POP BUT INITIALLY HAD NO OTHER INDICATION OF A PROBLEM. AFTER DRIVING CAUTIOUSLY FOR ABOUT 1.5 MILES THE OIL PRESSURE LIGHT ILLUMINATED. AT THIS POINT I PULLED OVER TO CHECK ON THE CAR. NO ANOMALIES WERE FOUND, SEEMED NORMAL. SO I DROVE ON FOR ANOTHER .5 MILES WHEN I BEGAN HEARING RANDOM, BUT DISTINCT CLANKING AND RATTLES. AT THIS POINT I DETOURED TO A KNOWN SAFE SPOT AT NO MORE THAN 10-15 MPH FOR APPROX. 1 MILE BEFORE THE VEHICLE BEGAN ACTING AS IF IT WOULD STALL. I SHUT DOWN AND HAD IT TOWED. DUE TO MY CONNECTIONS IN THE LR OWNERS COMMUNITY, AND IN TALKING WITH A WELL KNOWN INDEPENDENT LR MECHANIC, WITHIN HOURS OF THE INCIDENT I HAD LRNA'S TA03 1201 IN MY HANDS WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT IT SOUNDED AS IF MY SYMPTOMS WERE EXACTLY WHAT THEY THEMSELVES HAD ENCOUNTERED. THE TECH ADVISORY IN QUESTION STATES THAT, "...THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IS REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE..." SO, I WAS SURPRISED WHEN LR CONTACTED ME WITHIN A FEW HOURS TO TELL ME THAT MY VEHICLE WOULD BE READY FOR PICK UP THE NEXT DAY. I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RETRIEVE THE CAR UNDER PROTEST (THEY DID NOT INITIALLY PROVIDE A LOANER, AND ONLY PROVIDED A RENTAL AFTER MORE THAN 24 HOURS) AND EVEN WHEN I PRESENTED THE TA TO THEM, THEY REFUSED TO, OR WERE UNABLE TO, SHOW ME THAT THE REPAIRS THEY MADE SUPERSEDED THOSE INDICATED IN LRNA'S OWN DOCUMENTATION ON THIS ISSUE. I CONTACTED THE OWNER OF THE FRANCHISE -- THEY DID NOT RETURN MY CALLS. I W

AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, THE OIL LIGHT CAME ON AND THE ENGINE BEGAN TO MAKE LOUD CLANGING NOISE. AS I BEGAN TO PULL OVER, THE CAR STALLED. I CALLED LAND ROVER CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WAS INFORMED THAT ALTHOUGH I WAS STILL UNDER THE MILEAGE,THAT MY WARRANTY HAD EXPIRED 5 DAYS EARLIER. I HAD THE CAR TOWED TO LOCAL LAND ROVER DEALER AND WAS INFORMED THAT LAND ROVER WOULD NOT COVER THE VEHICLE. THE DEALER CONCLUDED THAT VEHICLE NEEDS A NEW MOTOR. AN INDEPENDENT LAND ROVER REPAIR FACILITY HAS CONCLUDED THAT ENGINE FAILURE WAS THE RESULT OF OIL PUMP FAILURE. LAND ROVER ISSUED A TECHNICAL BULLETIN ON MARCH 14, 2003 STATING THAT ENGINE FAILURES ON '03 AND '04 DISCOVERY ARE THE RESULT OF MANUFACTURING ERROR ON THE OIL PUMP. VEHICLE STILL NEEDS A NEW MOTOR, LAND ROVER HAS BEEN VERY UNCOOPERATIVE EVEN WHEN PRESENTED WITH THE TECH ALERT (TA03 1201). I AM 2 MONTHS WITH OUT A VEHICLE. CAR IS AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION. *NM

MY 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY RECEIVED ITS SCHEDULED 60K SERVICE THEN AT 65K THE OIL PUMP FAILED AND CAUSED A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE ENGINE. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SEVERAL DOCUMENTED CASES SIMILAR TO MINE LAND ROVER DOES NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY OR PLAN TO RECALL. THE CONSUMER IS LEFT WITH A POTENTIAL DANGER AND CONSIDERABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN. I HAVE TRIED TO RESOLVE THIS WITH LAND ROVER WHO AT THIS TIME IS NOT WILLING TO HELP OR TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. AT THIS TIME I CAN NOT RECOMMEND THE LAND ROVER LINE OF VEHICLES TO ANYONE AFTER OWNING ONE MY SELF FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS. *NM

OIL PUMP FAILURE AT 60K MILES. *NM

HILL DESCENT CONTROL TRACTION CONTROL AND THE ABS LIGHT CONSTANTLY LIGHT UP, I JUST BOUGHT MY CAR,(LESS THAN 2 MONTHS AGO) WHEN APPLIED BRAKES SOMETIMES DO NOT WORK PROPERLY. I WENT TO THE DEALER WHERE I PURCHASED THE CAR ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT THERE IS NO WARRANTY ON ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, I TOOK THE CAR TO A SERVICE DEALER AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WILL COST APPROXIMATELY 2500 DOLLARS! I HAD OTHER PROBLEMS AND I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH MY PURCHASE. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT ALL DISCOVERIES HAVE THIS PROBLEM I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE A RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE, THIS IS MY 3RD LAND ROVER AND THEY ALL HAD ABS FAILURE. *JB

2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY S. TODAY VEHICLE SURGED AFTER APPLYING PEDAL AND WOULD NOT STOP...OR SHOULD SAY WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP AND ALMOST RESULTED IN CAR PLUNGING INTO ON COMING TRAFFIC. I KNOW BELOW I'VE ONLY LISTED ONE FAILURE BUT ONCE IS ENOUGH IT IS JUST LUCK MY WIFE WAS ABLE TO GET THE CAR TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OUT OF TRAFFIC. I CALLED LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA SHORTLY AFTER BUYING VEHICLE TO FIND OUT IF ANY RECALLS WERE LISTED FOR VEHICLE AFTER FINDING A RECALL THAT DEALT WITH EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM. HOWEVER THEY TOLD ME THE RECALL DID NOT APPLY TO MY VIN...THEN ONLY A WEEK LATER I HAVE THE EXACT PROBLEM WITH MY LAND ROVER. THE CAMPAIGN NUMBER THAT APPLIES: NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 03V133000. *NM

REAR DOOR LATCHING MECHANISM FAILURE. I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE REAR DOOR LATCH STICKING AND NOT OPENING TO CATCH THE REAR DOOR. WHEN THE DOOR IS CLOSED IT EITHER BOUNCES BACK BECAUSE THE LATCH IS STUCK IN A CLOSED POSITION OR CLOSES BUT IS NOT SECURE. AS I WAS DRIVING UP THE ROAD AND TURNING ONTO A TWO LANE HIGHWAY THE REAR DOOR VIOLENTLY FLEW OPEN CAUSING THE HINGE TO DEFORM AND SUBSEQUENTLY CAUSING THE FAILURE OF THE DOOR TO CLOSE AT ALL. REAR DOOR IS RACKED IN ITS' POSITION AND THE LOCK SET IS NOW 3" INCHES + OFF KILTER. LAND ROVER QUOTES A COST OF $1000.00 TO REPAIR. MY AUTO BODY SHOP SAYS THAT IT IS SO COMMON THAT LAND ROVER/FORD QUOTES LABOR TIME TO REPAIR. PEOPLE OR ANIMALS COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK CARGO AREA, BELONGINGS COULD HAVE FALLEN IN FRONT OF ANOTHER VEHICLE CAUSING AN ACCIDENT...ANYTHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED WITH TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY LAND ROVER. *NM

LOSS OF CONTROL WHILE BRAKING HARD DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE POWER SEAT CONTROLS. DRIVERS HIP PUSHES THE SEAT BELT BUCKLE IN TO THE DRIVERS SEAT CONTROL SWITCH. WHEN BRAKING HARD, THE SWITCH IS PUSHED FORWARD, BY THE HIP. THIS CAUSES THE SEAT TO PUSH THE DRIVER INTO THE STEERING WHEEL. THE EVENT HAPPENED LATE AT NIGHT WITH NO TRAFFIC, SO THERE WAS NO DAMAGE. TRUCK WAS NOT STOPPED IN THE DESIRED LOCATION. WE HAVE REMOVED THE FUSE TO THE SEAT MOTORS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. TRUCK SHOULD HAVE AN INTERLOCK THAT PREVENTS THE SEAT FROM OPERATING WITH THE TRANSMISSION IN DRIVE. *JB

ON MARCH 25, 2006 MY FAMILY WAS ON I-75 IN OUR 2003 DISCOVERY SE. WE WERE IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE AND A PERSON SEVERAL CARS AHEAD MADE A SUDDEN LANE CHANGE CUTTING OFF A DRIVER AHEAD OF IN OUR LANE. HE BRAKES SUDDENLY. THE TRUCK FOLLOWING STRUCK HIM. I WAS ALREADY SLOWING DOWN DUE TO THE HEAVY TRAFFIC. HOWEVER, I STRUCK THE TRUCK. IT WAS NOT A HEAVY COLLISION AND THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, I WAS STRUCK FROM BEHIND BY AN 18 WHEELER. UPON IMPACT, MY DISCOVERY BURST INTO FLAMES IN THE BACK. THE IMPACT AGAIN DROVE MY VEHICLE IN TO THE TRUCK AHEAD. THIS TIME IT WAS A VERY HEAVY IMPACT (THE HOOD CRUMPLED AND THE WINDSHIELD SHATTERED) BUT THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. WE JUST BARELY GOT OUT (I HAD 2ND DEGREE BURNS TO SIDE OF FACE AND HAND) I AM CONCERNED THAT 1.) THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY AT LEAST THE SECOND TIME AND 2.) THE VEHICLE BURST INTO FLAMES ON IMPACT. *JB