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2016 Dodge Journey complaints

Owner reports filed with NHTSA about this vehicle, newest first and reproduced as filed. They are unverified accounts: one proves nothing, and a pattern across many is the thing worth reading. Back to the full 2016 record →

Unknown or Other
Filed Jan 16, 2023FL

When you change to park reverse drive there's a loud noise. When you put in drive and start driving it doesn't move and sounds like it's in park or neutral. I have pulled out in traffic and it has done this four times now

Unknown or Other
Filed Jan 8, 2023UT

I was on the freeway and all of a sudden these lights came on and my car slowed down to a very dangerous pace and would not accelerate. This is only 2 weeks after getting 2 new tires on it. VEHICLE HAS CODES P2118, P2072, P2112, P2110 AND P2101. ALL CODES DEAL WITH THE With Customer: ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM AND MOTOR. RECOMMEND TAKE TO A FULL SERVICE SHOP TO HAVE THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM LOOKED AT AND INSPECTED, BUT ISSUES DO NOT ARISE BECAUSE OF THE TIRES BEING STALLED. CURRENT LIGHTS ARE FLASHING Electronic SYMBOL, TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT AND TRACTION CONTROL OFF LIGHT. VEHICLE IN LIMP MODE PTS, TRIED TO CLEAR LIGHT TO SEE IF IT WOULD FIX ISSUE BUT AS SOON AS VEHICLE TURNS ON, ALL LIGHTS COME BACK After further investigation, The Journey is going to need the throttle body replaced.

Engine
Filed Jan 3, 2023DC

One week ago or so, I was driving, then I notice the needle grade was moving back and forth, car stared to give me beeps sounds if it was over heating. then the engine light came on and is still on, a recall on cam shaft S89 was done 2017. I have no knowledge of this getting done, there got to be some type of shortage going on, because when i drive the car stalls and feels like a stick shift. CAM ECM SENSOR, I was told by my register mechanic. when he tested it for me it it showed that its a shortage in the wire cam going to the ecm sensor. my car has 42,000 miles on it. I'm not a every day driver., since this pandemic. i paid off my car 2018 or 2019 and she is 6 years old. I strongly feel like this gotta be a manufacturing defect. Dealers wanna charge me $265 dollars to do a diagnostic. which I feel like what the hell. So I'm asking for some clarity in 6years doge cars act up like this. Ihave always brought my cars from dodge and drove it over 18years with never a mess like this. I'm a old lady looking for real honest answers. Other then well its time to buy another car

Steering
Filed Dec 6, 2022MO

When making a turn and accelerating the gas the vehicle pops. This vehicle is a 1 time owner has 36,385 miles and is the rear differential and electric clutch assembly on rear differential is out. This vehicle should not have something this major occurring with the low mileage. So far no recalls. However I have seen multiple complaints within google search. This is a safety issue as it feels as though the vehicle is going to delay in turning and could cause an accident.

Seats
Filed Nov 29, 2022CA

Headrest (seat driver side) deployed for no reason while car was parked in garage and turned off.

Engine and Engine Cooling › Engine › Crank/Camshaft Position Sensor
Filed Nov 28, 202255 milesTX

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while driving approximately 45 MPH and attempting to accelerate to 55 MPH due to oncoming traffic, the vehicle lost motive power and stalled. The contact was able to get the vehicle to the side of the road where the vehicle failed to restart. The contact stated that a certified mechanic arrived and serviced the vehicle on the side of the road. The crankshaft was replaced, and the check engine warning light turned off. The failure recurred and the crankshaft was replaced four times. The check engine warning light then illuminated and remained illuminated despite the crankshaft replacement. The contact stated that the failure was related to NHTSA Campaign Number: 16V907000 (Engine and Engine Cooling) however, the VIN was not included. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and confirmed that the VIN was not included in the recall. The failure mileage was unknown.

Power Train
Filed Oct 25, 2022VA

Transmission pump failure at 150k miles

Engine
Filed Oct 17, 2022OH

Car would not start so I thought it was the battery so I called a tow truck and they jumped my car. I had my car jumped and went to drive it to the local Pep Boys to have my battery checked out and my car would not accelerate above 15 MPH and the engine kept hesitating every time I was trying to stop the car or at a stop light. After reading all the other complaints on this website about the same type of issues with 2016 Dodge Journeys they need to be recalled and the engines fixed.

Engine
Filed Oct 14, 2022SC

When driving the car will go into limp mode with no warning. When the car shuts off I have no control of steering wheel and brakes. Thus cam shaft was replaced but the issue now persists. Now the engine is stalling and caused the steering hose to bust and head gasket is blown.

Power Train
Filed Oct 12, 2022GA

The vehicle started making a whining noise, also brake light came on, vehicle lost ability to brake in open traffic, slipping in and out of gear, vehicle loss power while driving in open traffic. This all began on or around 10/8. The engine light came on in the vehicle after which time the vehicle was no longer driven by owner as a safety precaution. On 10/11 the vehicle was diagnosed by Aamco transmissions. The mechanic advised the vehicle had experience hydraulic pressure failure, the hydraulic pump in the vehicle went out unexpectedly. The mechanic said all fluids were inspected and topped off and look well all except transmission fluid, which was described as burnt. The mechanic explained that because of the pump failure the transmission wasn’t receiving any pressure. I found an open recall not specific to my VIN but specific to 2016 Dodge Journeys that was for power train automatic transmissions. Recall number was S44. Another recall number was 16V461000. The consequences of this recall is exactly what my vehicle experienced. AAMCO also confirmed they see this a lot with my type of vehicle. My vehicle is available for inspection. My safety was gravely out at risk as I drive a lot taking my kids to basketball practice. I live in a very busy area metro Atlanta and have used the expressway often I could have loss the ability to brake at a higher speed or completely shut off in the middle of high speed traffic.

Power Train
Filed Sep 2, 202277,000 milesAL

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while driving approximately 45 MPH, the vehicle began to decelerate and lost motive power. The contact depressed the brake pedal to stop the vehicle. While coming to a stop the vehicle inadvertently lunged forward. The vehicle was turned off and restarted but failed to exceed 30 MPH while driving. The contact stated that the check engine warning light was flashing on and off. The contact had taken the vehicle to an independent mechanic who informed the contact of transmission failure with the vehicle and referred her to the local dealer for assistance. The vehicle had not been diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer had not been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 77,000.

Engine
Filed Aug 15, 202280,000 milesVA

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated that while driving at an undetermined speed, there was an abnormal ticking noise detected. The engine warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic where they informed the contact the camshaft sensor and crankshaft sensor should be replaced. The local dealer was not contacted. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The contact stated the failure was related to NHTSA Campaign Number: 16V907000 ( Engine and Engine Cooling). The manufacturer was contacted but no additional assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 80,000.

Electrical SystemFire
Filed Aug 8, 2022TN

The engine/powertrain occasionally does not accelerate on the freeway causing us to backup traffic. This happens randomly and will eventually cause a major accident. I have contacted dodge but they want me to leave my car for 6 weeks with no loaner I am a single mother that is not possible. The car is under bumper to bumper coverage but they still wont fix the issue! Also my heated seats are stuck on high and often smell like they are going to catch fire! Again dodge wont help!

Power Train
Filed Aug 1, 2022AZ

At 58000 miles I was told today that the torc converter and transmission pump is bad. The car could not idle while in drive and would only stay on if going over 20mph, once under 20mph the car would shake and die out.

Power Train
Filed Jul 14, 2022TX

While driving Check engine Light appeared and shortly after vehicle stopped accelerating and steering wheel went stiff and Luckly I was near a stop Light where I could turn into a store. Vehicle would not let me turn it off or change gear. Had I been on the highway It would have caused a major accident. After a few minutes, the vehicle let me change gears and turn it off. Drove to a mechanic and he fixed the Crack sensor that had gone out. A week later, Check engine light came out again and now I am experiencing high RPM with low acceleration. Code stated transmission problem. Mechanic now says I need a new transmission.

Electrical System
Filed Jun 22, 2022CO

I received notice of a recall for my vehicle, when reviewing the recall list, I noticed I have issues where all icons come on, and the radio turns channel without selection. I can no longer check the vehicle status (oil level, tire pressure, etc.). I recently completed a scheduled oil change, and the next day received notice the vehicle was due for an oil change. In the recalls listed, I am having the same issue, but my VIN is not showing. Please help, as my 2016 Journey should be part of this list.

Seats › Front Assembly › Head Restraint
Filed Jun 1, 2022GA

The contact's son owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while her son was driving approximately 40 MPH, the headrest was deployed. The driver pulled over safely but could not reattach the headrest. The driver was not aware of any warning lights were being illuminated. The contact had not taken the vehicle to a local dealer or independent mechanic. The vehicle had not been diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer had not been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was unknown. The VIN was not available.

Electrical System
Filed May 29, 2022NC

The problem started back in April, where lights on my dash started coming on. I noticed a different feel when i drive now. I dont know if its electrical steering or what. Its the BRAKE, ABS, A TIRE, and A Car with Swerve Lines... I dont feel safe when me and my kids are in truck. One time i was driving and it said i was going 99 but was actually going 45. Also it says there are 4 RECALLS ON THIS MODEL but when i put my VIN its says i have no unrepaired recalls. THAT IS FALSE! THE RECALLS LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE RPOBLEMS MY VEHICLE IS HAVING. I dont know whats going on but for my kids safety im gone need it handled and fixed!

Power Train
Filed May 24, 2022MI

The AWD light keeps flashing and it’s making my car jerk and not able to drive it. I have 3 kids and can’t be driving it and get stuck on the side of the road.

Electrical System
Filed May 24, 2022MI

Sometimes when I turn my car on the front screen won’t turn on it will stay black, when I go to back up my rear view camera won’t work, sometimes my two front windows won’t roll down, my defroster won’t turn on in the front, my blowers used to work where I was able to switch them to defrost, just face, or feet but it’s just stuck on one setting and my passenger side blows hot air when the AC is on. In winter it’s hard to see out my front window even when I let the car warm up, it will fog up while I’m driving and it causes me not to see and could potentially cause a major accident, also in the summertime when I need the AC for my children and it’s not working properly can effect them as well, my car definitely should be on the recall list for several things that have been recalled, I feel unsafe to drive it especially with my babies in the car. It’s my only transportation for anything! Along side with my AWD light flickering on and off and causing my car to slow down and not accelerate, it feels like it’s going to stall and would not be good in the middle of traffic.

Seat Belts
Filed May 23, 2022IL

The drivers side seatbelt is coming unlatched while operating the vehicle. This happens sometimes with very little tension and almost always when a more sudden stop is needed. I have researched online and this appears to be a recurring problem with this vehicle specifically. I attempted to have it repaired but the cost was over $700 which I am completely unable to afford. In my opinion, an item as essential as this should not so easily malfunction and should be required to be repaired by the manufacturer immediately since it is clearly a problem had by many others.

Electrical System
Filed May 2, 2022CA

Unknown: my vehicle driver side carpet gets, my heat comes on by itself constantly my check engine light comes on and off and sometimes my acceleration and braking doesn't match or lineup at times when I brake/ slow down and then get back on the gas it doesn't register or pick up on breaking and slowing down a lot of dodge journey's have these same issues according to online reviews

Power Train
Filed Apr 28, 2022143,069 milesMO

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while driving approximately 45 MPH, the accelerator pedal was depressed and the contact felt a loss of power. The contact stated that the vehicle started to decelerate and eventually stopped. The contact stated he did not notice any warning lights being illuminated. The contact pulled off the highway safely and had the vehicle towed to an independent mechanic who diagnosed the vehicle and determined that the failure was related to NHTSA Campaign Number: 16V461000 (Power Train). The contact had the vehicle towed to a dealer who informed her that there was no recall on the vehicle. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer had not been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was 143,069.

Service Brakes
Filed Apr 21, 2022GA

For several month my brake light would illuminate when I would hit brakes. Then the ABS light and traction control light also came on. Took it to shop and said it was the electric stability control module and dodge journeys are known for this but it only recalls 2012-2015. Mine is a 2016. Pretty sure it should also be included in the recall, nevertheless they tried to charge me almost $600 to fix, I refused.

Electrical System
Filed Mar 27, 2022AZ

Headlights keep flickering while driving and park on high beams and low beams

Power Train
Filed Mar 25, 202282,850 milesFL

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated that while driving at approximately 47 - 50 MPH, the vehicle would not shift above the second gear and hesitated to accelerate. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic and diagnosed with transmission pump and torque converter failure. The mechanic informed the contact that the transmission pump needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The contact related the failure to NHTSA Campaign Number: 16V461000 (Power Train) however, the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was 82,850.

Engine
Filed Mar 22, 2022CA

I was driving on the highway and the RPM’s started going up and down like crazy and it wouldn’t excel past 25. This happened for two miles and then I stopped at a stop light, when it turned green, I went to go and it would only reverse. Even when in drive. I had to turn the car off and back on to slowly get over to the side of the road.

Engine
Filed Mar 14, 2022SC

Vehicle stalling and but won't cut off. Left us in the middle of the highway. Is a problem with other vehicles like mine. But doesn't have the recall check engine light came on but went back off

Unknown or Other
Filed Jan 12, 2022FL

My daughter bought a 2016 Dodge Journey SXT new from the dealership. The following have been replaced: Head, Camshaft, four times position sensor A&B & the Radiator Fin Neck. That was $2000. that didn't fix all of the problems so it went to the Dealership. They swore to my daughter & husband that it was the Camshaft sensor failing, wiring harness failing, it had a break in a wire and 1 sensor had a high resistance and another sensor had NO resistance. They quoted us $1750. and that it would fix the problem. Now after 3 weeks they say that wasn't the problem and that it was going to cost another couple of thousands of dollars. There was a important safety recall for 2016 Dodge Journeys on the crankshaft sensor &/or camshaft electrical connector terminal, which says it could cause a crash from the engine stalling while driving. They say it was certain Dodge Journey, Jeep Compass & Jeep Patriot. Vehicles manufactured May 9, 2016 to July 15, 2016 that was a Manufacturer Recall S89(Also, NHTSA safety recall # 16V907000 crankshaft or camshaft sensor, causing engine to stall) I've seen other people with the same problem. Not to mention the dealership is now saying there's a part they need and have no way of getting. WOW so we owe them almost 2K and they really don't know what the problem is. My daughter is a single mother of 2 and can't not have a car. She still makes payments on the Journey the dealership has. How can a business cover one vehicle for the same issue another is havin

Seats
Filed Jan 11, 2022SC

Passenger side head rest popped out while driving. When it popped there was also a loud noise.

Air BagsCrash2 injured
Filed Dec 15, 2021AZ

Head on Collison with light pole high speed the no airbags deployed. Vehicle was towed to tow yard is awaiting insurance to estimate damages.

Electrical System
Filed Nov 15, 202135,000 milesLA

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while driving at 55 MPH, the ABS warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic who diagnosed that the brake pads needed to be replaced. The contact stated that the brake pads were replaced. The contact also stated that the cruise control system failed to operate as designed, and the driver’s side window failed to open as needed. The contact stated that the Navigation System was inoperable and there were also several unknown warning lights illuminated upon starting the vehicle. The dealer and the manufacturer were not notified of the failure. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The approximate failure mileage was 35,000.

Unknown or Other
Filed Oct 29, 2021IL

Catalytic converter is faulty and needs repaired.

Power Train
Filed Oct 21, 2021CA

My car lost power at all due to transmission failure

Engine
Filed Oct 7, 202178,500 milesSC

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated they while driving 36 MPH, the vehicle lost motive power and stalled. There was no warning light illuminated. The contact waited for ten minutes before restarting the vehicle and continue driving however, the failure recurred. The contact had the vehicle towed to the residence. The contact had an independent mechanic inspect the vehicle at the residence. The contact was informed that the crankshaft sensor needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 78,500.

Seats
Filed Sep 10, 2021IN

Headrest randomly deployed. No accidents nor apparent reason.

Electrical System
Filed Sep 8, 2021OH

Throttle computer system. Vehicle would shut down while driving. Skid control turned off. No acceleration or wheel control.

Electrical System
Filed Aug 30, 2021FL

My car has many electrical problems, the power steering and today the engine burned out, I almost killed myself because the brakes did not respond to me

Engine
Filed Aug 28, 2021CA

Car struggles to gain power when accelerating. Will do small kicks when accelerating and struggle then will automatically kick off and speed up

Power Train
Filed Jul 28, 2021IN

As I was driving 80 miles hour on interstate, I begin to hear a whining noise and pulled into rest area (thankfully). As I pull in, the car stops moving and will not go anywhere...not reverse or drive. At this time Engine light comes on. No early warning signs. After waiting 7 hours on Chryslers Road Side Assistance to send a tow, it was towed to a Dodge dealership and found that the transmission pump has failed and sent metal shaving through the transmission. My car is the same make and model and manufacture date (9/2015) that the S44 recall covered (NHTSA Campaign ID Number 16V461000), however my specific VIN number is not included. Dodge area manager was contacted and refused to add it to the recall. Mileage is 82000 and I just drove the car off the used lot 1 1/2 months ago. This should be added to the recall and all Dodges of that make, model and year should be checked for potential failure and if it occurs, compensated for repairs. I had just driving through a large city with 5 lanes of traffic at a high rate of speed, and if it had stopped just a few moments before, we would have in a major, life threating accident.

Vehicle Speed Control
Filed Jul 24, 2021WV

Driving home from work (about 10:45p on 7/22/2021), when, without warning, the ETC (electronic throttle control) and the Trac light came on. This led to an immediate lose of power with no ability to accelerate. This happened 7 times from Sterling Boulevard to Loudoun County Parkway exit on Rt 7. At one point, I was almost rear-end after loosing power. This happened to me once before on 7/18/2021 at 11:30p, again I was driving home from work. I called the dealership on 7/22, because I was out of town from 719-7/21, in the morning to see if they could repair the issue. They could not get me in until July 28th. They assured me it was safe to drive. If it happened again, I was instructed to stop and reset the vehicle, which was done every time I lost power on 7/22, but they assured me the vehicle was safe to drive to a job I had Salisbury, Maryland on Saturday (3 hrs away). I ended up canceling the job. My concern is that upon researching the internet, there seemed to be too many of the same stories. This issue seems to be affecting Journeys and Chargers based on my research. If I was on an Interstate with a semi behind me, there is no way that driver could have braked in time.

Electrical System
Filed Jul 13, 2021DE

The crankshaft sensor failed and vehicle stopped in the middle of the road. Very unsafe, no warning or anything

Electrical System
Filed Jul 8, 2021IL

I was traveling on the highway when the vehicle suddenly, without warning, stalled and stopped running. I was able to cruise until the vehicle completely stopped. I was able to restart the engine by pushing the "start" button to off and then pushing my brake and the engine restarted successfully where I can drive to the shoulder off the road. Engine light turned on. I have a OBD scanner tool and the code that the tool read is P0335 Crankshaft Position sensor malfunction. Circuit A. I have about 52,000 miles on my odometer. This is a huge safety issue. At high speed, if the car stalls, this could lead to a significant accident. There was no warning prior to the engine stalling. I have a service appointment at Marino CJD next week. Marino CJD is located at 5133 W Irving Park Rd, Chicago, IL 60641.

Power Train
Filed Jul 5, 2021VA

The transmission quit pulling. Other 2016 dodge journey had same problem and we're recalled but mine wasn't included in this recall. Really horrible to place all this money in a newer vehicle and have these expensive problems that are a problem from factory. Very dangerous to just stop moving in mid drive.

Electrical System
Filed Jun 23, 2021NC

While driving my 2016 Journey in Raleigh, N.C. the vehicle was working fine until I came to a stop sign and it stalled. I was able to start it up and luckily no vehicle was behind me the first time it occurred. In Raleigh it did this again at a red light but because the vehicle behind me was still at a stop and I was aware from the time before I quickly restarted and drove with little fanfare. The Journey would drive fine, but when stopping at a sign or light or stopping in general the vehicle will stall. It buckle and then stalls as well. I was able to get home from Raleigh to Raeford NC because of driving on the highway. However, upon arriving in local roads in Raeford and having to stop at the lights, the Journey stalled at every light. I was able to start it up and drive a few times, and a few other times it would stall on first, or second try then work on next. It once stalled and took multiple times (more than 3) restarting before I was able to get it driving. At home I was able to get the vehicle safely into the driveway and upon starting it while in park it would idle normally and not shut off. I then put it in reverse to back up and it immediately started to buckle and then stalled. Put in in park and start the engine again and it would idle, went to drive and it stalled again. Restarted it in park and went to neutral and it would idle, but try to go to drive or reverse and it would start to buckle as if to shut off. Back in neutral or park and again it idles. It wil

Power Train
Filed Jun 7, 202146,600 milesPA

The contact owns a 2016 Dodge Journey. The contact stated while driving 30 Mph, the vehicle stalled with the check engine warning light illuminated. The vehicle was driven to an independent mechanic to be diagnosed. The contact was informed that the transmission needed to be replaced. The vehicle was then towed to a dealer and it was confirmed that the transmission had failed and needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and the contact was informed that the Vin was not under recall. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was 46,600.

Power Train
Filed Jun 7, 2021CA

Transmission had gone out at 102,368 miles. First service on the transmission is at 120,000 miles. Paid for the transmission out of pocket. It went out again 2 weeks later. Put in a 3rd transmission and it lasted several months and went out again. This will be the 4th transmission. There was a recall but I didn’t fall in the parameters but it’s the same issues as the recall, same year make and model. There no reason why it should be a recall. That’s 3 replacement transmission in under a year. All transmission were bought from Victorville motors. A dodge Chrysler car dealer.

Power Train
Filed May 4, 2021PA

2016 DODGE JOURNEY. CONSUMER STATED THAT SHE LOSS POWER WHILE OPERATING HER VEHICLE. *LD THE CONSUMER STATED THAT THE THROTTLE BODY WAS REPLACED. THE CONSUMER REQUESTED TO BE REIMBURSED THE COST OF REPAIRS. *JS

Power Train
Filed Apr 27, 202130,000 milesTX

WHILE DRIVING AT A SPEED OF 40 AND TRYING TO ACCELERATE THE CAR SEEMS LIKE IT WILL STALL AND HAS A HARD TIME SHIFTING TO ANOTHER GEAR. THIS HAPPENS ON HIGHWAY AND ON CITY STREETS.

Power Train
Filed Apr 26, 202187,000 milesVA

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 DODGE JOURNEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE HIS WIFE WAS DRIVING AT AN UNKNOWN SPEED, THE VEHICLE LOSS MOTIVE POWER ON AT LEAST TWO OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO WILLIAMSBURG CHRYSLER DODGE JEEP RAM (3012 RICHMOND RD B, WILLIAMSBURG, VA 23185) AND DIAGNOSED AS LOSS OF HYDRAULIC PUMP. ADDITIONALLY, THE TRANSMISSION NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT LINKED THE FAILURE TO NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 16V461000 (POWER TRAIN) HOWEVER, THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 87,000.

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