1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager complaints

TRANSMISSION WILL NOT SHIFT INTO GEAR WHEN STARTED (INTERMITTENT PROBLEM) AND HAS SHIFTED, BY ITSELF, INTO NEUTRAL WHILE IN OPERATION. THE VAN IS STILL IN WARRANTY AND WE ARE ASKING THAT THEY FIX OR REPLACE THE TRANSMISSION AS WE FEEL IT IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE IN IT'S PRESENT STATE. THE STARTING PROBLEM INVOLVES THE CAR TURNING OVER VIGOROUSLY BUT NOT STARTING WHEN THE IGNITION IS ACTIVIATED. ON THE SECOND OR THIRD ATTEMPT THE CAR WILL USUALLY START. THE PROBLEM IS MORE FREQUENT IN WARMER WEATHER AND AS THE DAY GOES ON.

THE CENTER-MOUNTED REAR BRAKE LIGHT ON THIS MODEL IS EQUIPPED WITH THREE LAMPS. I NOTICED ONE OF THESE HAD BURNT OUT, AND UPON REPLACING IT I NOTICED THAT THE PLASTIC HOUSING THE LAMPS ARE MOUNTED IN WAS MELTED THROUGH ABOVE ALL THREE LAMPS, AND FURTHER THAT THE FOAM MATERIAL GLUED TO THE INTERIOR DRESSING PANEL ALSO SHOWED SIGNS OF MELTING. ALL THREE LAMPS HAD MELTED PLASTIC ON THEM AS WELL.

THE BOLT HOLDING THE HATCHBACK PISTON ON THE PASSENGERS SIDE SHEARED OFF AT THE BODY. THIS REQUIRED DRILLING OUT THE REMAINS AND REPLACING THE ENTIRE PISTON BECAUSE THE BOLT WAS NOT DETACHABLE AND BUILT-IN TO THE PISTON.

THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM ALTHOUGH THE MAKER SAYS THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD EXCESSIVE PROBLEMS

BASE COAT FAILURE TO ADHERE TO OVERCOAT CAUSING PAINT TO PEEL FROM TOP OF VEHICLE.

I PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED A HARD COPY OF THE ORIGINAL FAILURE (NHTSA REFERENCE NUMBER 828479) VIA NORMAL MAIL. THIS SUBMISSION IS TO DOCUMENT A SIMILAR SAFETY ISSUE THAT OCCURRED 7 WEEKS AFTER THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM WAS 'FIXED'. I WILL REPEAT THE INFORMATION FROM MY ORIGINAL SUBMISSION FOR REFERENCE. ORIGINAL SUBMISSION (10/22/98): I HAD A RECALL PERFORMED ON THE ABS SYSTEM IN 1996. AT THAT TIME, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT A DEFECTIVE DESIGNED PART WAS BEING REPLACED WITH A NEWER DESIGNED PART AND THAT THE ABS SYSTEM WOULD NOW FUNCTION PROPERLY. IN AUGUST OF 1998, WHILE DRIVING DOWN A ROAD AT 35 MPH, I ATTEMPTED TO BRAKE AND HAD NO BRAKES AT ALL. FORTUNATELY, NO ACCIDENT OCCURRED. I TOOK THE VEHICLE TO SPARTAN CHRYSLER PLYMOUTH IN MURRAY, UT WHO INFORMED ME THE ABS HYDRAULIC SYSTEM 'PISTON ASSEMBLY' HAD FAILED. THEY INDICATED THAT THIS WAS THE SAME PART FOR WHICH THE RECALL WAS ISSUED IN 1996. THEY TOLD ME (IN 1998) THAT IN 1996 THE RECALL ONLY CONSISTED OF CHECKING THE PART TO SEE IF IT WAS BAD. MY QUESTION IS THAT I WONDER IF THE RECALL WAS REALLY JUST TO CHECK THE PART? THIS SEEMS LIKE A SERIOUS SAFETY PROBLEM. THE PART CAN WORK TODAY AND PASS THE RECALL 'TEST' ONLY TO FAIL TOMORROW AND CAUSE INJURY OR DEATH BECAUSE THE VEHICLE LOSES THE BRAKING SYSTEM. WOULDN'T IT BE SAFER TO REMOVE THE FAULY DESIGNED PART AND REPLACE IT WITH A KNOWN FIXED PART? UPDATE (11/18/98) ON 7 NOVEMBER, THE BRAKING SYSTEM OF MY VEHICLE FAILED WITH IDENTICAL SYMPTOMS AS BEFORE. WITHOUT WARNING, THE

SINCE ABS RECALL 685 HAS BEEN DONE, THE BRAKES HAVE BEEN IRREGULAR. THE PEDAL FIGHTS ME, THE PEDAL LOCKS UP AND THE ABS SYSTEM IS OBVIOUSLY MECHANICALLY COMPROMISED. DEALER TOTALLY UNABLE TO ADDRESS MY NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS. (THEY CLAIM I DONT NO HOW TO BRAKE)

THE AIR CONDITIONER SYSTEM IS INOPERATIVE DUE TO PROBLEMS WITH A/C MOTOR AND HIGH PRESSURE SWITCH. DEALER REPLACED PARTS. DEALER CANNOT DETERMINE PROBLEM. PLEASE PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION. *AK

WHILE DRIVING THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM FAILED, CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO POP BACK TO NEUTRAL, AND ALMOST CAUSING AN ACCIDENT. CURRENTLY AT DEALER. PLEASE PROVIDE DETAILS. *AK

HAD RECEIVED RECALL NOTICE (96V099000). CALLED DEALER. TOOK VEHICLE TO DEALER FOR REPAIRS. TOLD VEHICLE READY FOR PICK UP. AFTER PICKING UP VEHICLE, SHORT TIME LATER, BRAKE SYSTEM FAILED TO WORK PROPERLY AFTER BEING APPLIED. AN ACCIDENT HAPPENED DUE TO BRAKE FAILURE. *AK

RECEIVED RECALL NOTICE (96V099000). CALLED DEALER. TOOK VEHICLE ON APPOINTED DAY FOR REPAIRS. LATER, WAS INFORMED VEHICLE WAS READY & REPAIRS DONE. SOMETIMES LATER, WAS DRIVING VEHICLE WHEN BRAKE SYSTEM FAILED DUE TO A LACK OF BRAKING POWER. *AK

AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FAILED.

WHEN WE WENT TO LIFT THE TAIL GATE TO REMOVE MY DAUGHTER'S FRIEND'S BIKE, WE ENCOUNTERED RESISTANCE. WE DISCOVERED THAT THE UPPER BOLT THAT ATTACHES THE STRUT TO THE LIFT GATE HAD BROKEN IN TWO. WHEN WE ATTEMPTED TO GET A REPLACEMENT PART, WE STARTED TO HEAR STORIES ABOUT THIS FAILURE. THE DEALERSHIP'S SERVICE DEPARTMENT WAS CLOSED (SATURDAY) AND WE LEFT FOR A CAMPING TRIP ON MONDAY, RETURNING TODAY. WHEN I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP, THEY ACKNOWLEDGED A RECALL ON ANOTHER YEARS MODEL, BUT WERE UNHELPFUL WITH MY PROBLEM. THESE GATES ARE VERY HEAVY AND I AM JUST GLAD THAT THE GATE DID NOT COME CRASHING DOWN ON MY DAUGHTER'S HEAD!

IN OCTOBER 1997, THE DRIVER SIDE SEAT BELT JAMMED IN THE FULLY RETRACTED POSITION. I HAD IT REPLACED AND DIDN'T THINK MUCH ABOUT IT. THEN IN JULY 1998, THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM OCCURRED WITH HE BELT FOR THE RIGHT SECOND BENCH SEAT POSITION. I HAD THIS BELT REPLACED, BUT THIS TIME I ASKED THE DEALER FOR THE DEFECTIVE BELT. I HAVE IT. DO YOU WANT IT? I FEEL THAT ONE FAILURE MAY HAVE BEEN BAD LUCK, BUT TWO FAILURES SEEMS LIKE THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THE COMPONENTS.

TRANSMISSION FAILURE TOO SOON FOR 63000 MILE OF NORMAL WEAR; AND LESS THAN 16000-18000 MILE OF WEAR ON THE 2ND. DEALER WAS NOTIFIED, AND WILL NOT REPAIR UNLESS COST IS PICKED UP BY THE CONSUMER. *AK

WHEN BRAKES WERE APPLIED THE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR, RESULTING IN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. MANUFACTURER AND DEALER HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. *AK

ABS AND BRAKE WARNING LIGHT REMAIN ON FOR APPROX. 2 MINUTES AFTER STARTING VEHICLE.

ABS AND BRAKE WARNING LIGHT REMAIN ON APPROX. 2 MIN. AFTER STARTING VEHICLE.

TRANSMISSION FAILED 3 TIMES. INDEPENDENT MECHANICS INDICATES THAT 4TH TRANSMISSION IS FAILING. DEALS CLAIM TO NOT FIND ANY PROBLEMS, THEY HAVE EVEN RESET THE FAULT CODES SO THAT NO PROBLEM IS INDICATED.

WITHOUT WARNING, TRANMISSION QUIT.

FUEL PUMP FAILURE.

96V099000. CONSUMER STATES THAT THE BRAKES HAVE BEEN REPAIRED ABOUT FOUR TIMES AND THE PROBLEM STILL REMAINS, JUST RECEIVED RECALL INFORMATION, CONTACTED THE DEALER TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM, REMAINS ON HOLD UNTIL THE REPAIR WORK CAN BE DONE FOR THE FIFTH TIME. *AK

WHEEL STUDS DISENTREGATED CAUSING WHEEL TO FALL OFF.

PAINT IS PEELING FROM ROOF AND HOOD OF VEHICLE. THE BASE COAT DID TO ADHERE TO THE OVER COAT.

TOP CLIP ON INTEGRATED CHILD SEAT BROKE OFF WHEN ONE-YEAR OLD CHILD PULLED IT APART.

CLIP ON CHILD'S ON INTEGRATED CHILD SEAT CAN BE PULLED APART BY A CHILD.

AIR CONDITIONER HOSES HAD DRY ROT.

ITHE LIFTGATE IN THE REAR OF CAR HAS BROKEN, AND FELL DOWN BECAUSE OF NO SUPPORT. DEALER IS REPAIRING. *AK

ABS SYSTEM FAILS INTERMITTANTLY.

PASSENGER'S SIDE DOOR FAILS TO STAY CLOSED. DOOR OPENS WHEN VEHICLE TURNS CORNERS. TOOK TO DEALER & INFORMED BY MECHANIC THAT HINGES ARE CRACKED. SAID CHILDREN SWUNG ON DOOR. *AK

THE TENSIONER (PART #461894) BREAKS OFF, CAUSING THE VEHICLE TP LOSE POWER ASSIST SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING WHICH CAN CAUSE LOSS OF CONTROL OF VEHICLE. *AK

ABS BRAKE PROBLEMS; ON NORMAL ROAD CONDITIONS WHEN APPLYING THE BRAKES, IT APPEARS THAT THE SYSTEM IS TRYING THE WORK. THE PEDAL GOES TO THE FLOOR, AND THE VAN REQUIRES ADDITIONAL STOPPING DISTANCE. TAKEN TO DEALER AT LEAST (3) TIMES. DEALER NOT ABLE TO LOCATE PROBLEM. TWO WEEKS AGO WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE, THE BRAKES GAVE OUT COMPLETELY. PROBLEM HAS BEEN CORRECTED BY DEALER.*AK

WHILE DRIVING ABS BRAKE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON/OFF AND ABS BRAKES FAILED. HAD DIFFICULTY STOPPING VEHICLE. *AK

SEAT BELT WAS NOT RETRACTING TO ORIGINAL POSITION. SEAT BELT REMAINS STUCK IN THE SIDE PANEL, OR EXTENDS HALF WAY. *AK

TRANSMISSION FAILURE.

ABS BRAKE FAILURE PRIOR TO RECALL, RECALL REPAIRS REFUSED BECAUSE NO SPECIFIC PROBLEM WAS FOUND REGARDING THE ABS BRAKES (96V-099). *AK

ANTI LOCK BRAKES STILL EXPERIENCE INTERMITTENT FAILURE EVEN THOUGH RECALL REPAIR WORK ON ABS SYSTEM WAS COMPLETED.

TRAMSMISSION FAILURE.

TRANSMISSION FAILURE.

BOLT THAT ATTACHES REAR LIFT SUPPORT SHEARED/SUFFERED FATIGUE AND BROKE; DEALER REPLACED SUPPORT BOLT, REPAIRED DAMAGES. ONE YEAR LATER, OTHER BOLT BROKE. STRUT WENT THROUGH REAR WINDOW, GLASS SHATTERED OVER OWNER'S FACE WHILE CLOSING LIFTGATE. *AK

REAR SHOCK FOR THE HATCH BROKE, RECALL ON TRUNK LID/DOOR ASSEMBLY: HINGE AND ATTACHMENTS (#95I001000), HOWEVER VEHICLE DENIED RECALL SERVICE.

TRANSMISSION FAILURE.

DRIVER DOOR WELDS BROKEN.

FUEL IS LEAKING IN THE ENGINE AREA AROUND INJECTORS. ALL INJECTORS AND O-RINGS HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND IT IS STILL LEAKING.

DRIVER SEAT BELT FREQUENTLY IS INOPERABLE. BELT WILL LOCK IN TRACK AND NOT BE ALLOWED TO REACH LATCH FOR FASTENING.

WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED, THE ABS LIGHT CAME ON AND THE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR , RESULTING IN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. THE DEALER IS INSPECTING THE VEHICLE. *AK

WINDSHIELD WIPERS FAILED.

THE REAR WINDSHIELD WIPER IS STUCK IN THE UPRIGHT POSTION AND WILL NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY. *AK

SEAT BELT DISCONNECTS FROM ITS ANCHOR. *AK

WHILE DRIVING, THE REAR GATE HYDRAULIC TUBE ON THE PASSENGER SIDE CAME OFF AT THE FRAME, THE BOLT THAT HELD THE SUPPORT TO THE FRAME HAD BROKEN OFF.